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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. You can’t please him/her all the
time… and thanks Dan for not faking it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. Exciting… a new position. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Burt<SPAN class=328035222-09032007>
is</SPAN> <SPAN class=328035222-09032007>giving </SPAN>up the
mission?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. There is no right way to do it,
solution, or perfect course… and isn’t variety fun. I did not know that was even
possible? You contortionist!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">4. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Some fleets now will get more fun time
being on top and some will have to cum sooner… more fairness. Change it up
baby!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">5.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who cares how the bed is made. Set
the course and go.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It’s been
puberty since we had to take down our headsail and put up a spin at the
start.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>A huge wind
shift… glory days.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Now after
they finally get the bed made, they tell us they have a headache.<SPAN
class=328035222-09032007> So f</SPAN>rustrating!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Sonars and S2 7.9s. <SPAN
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org
[mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>steve.truax@comcast.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 09, 2007 1:31
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Odell Tuttle; Dan McNamara<BR><B>Cc:</B> Dutch Bull;
capri25@lists.wyc.org; Pete Willenbring<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Capri25] Fleet
Captains Meeting<BR></FONT><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>More oil for the fire.... I reviewed the partisipation last year and
determined the average number of boats that finished for each fleet for both the
Sunday and Thursday series. In short, the J-22 fleet has more boats on Sundays
and the Capri 25 fleet is tops on Thursdays. Additionally some of the fleets
have very low parisipation. The big issue seems to be traffic on the first
upwind. So my suggestion would be to compress more boats in the same start and
extend the sequence to 5 minute intervals. This adjustment would extend the
entire start sequence by only 4 minutes.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Starting Sequence on 5 minute
intervals</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"> Starting
Order
Sunday Thursday<BR>*1) S2 7.9
& Sonar
12.60
20.19<BR> 2)
J-24
7.00 11.38<BR>*3)
J-22
14.14
18.20<BR>
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-----<BR> &
nbsp;
33.74
49.77</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono">*4)
Capri-25
13.53
23.13<BR> 5) PHRF I & Ensign
6.87 14.81<BR>*6)
MORC/PHRF II/III
13.31
17.63<BR>
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-----<BR>
28.34
55.57</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono">* Indicates extented starting
line.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">Supporting Data : Fleet, Avg Boats Finished, Max
Boats in Race</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Sunday<BR>-------------------<BR>J-22
14.14 17<BR>Capri 25 13.53 16<BR>Sonar
7.40 11<BR>J-24 7.00
10<BR>PHRF I 5.27 7<BR>S2 7.9
5.20 8<BR>PHRF II 3.20 6<BR>PHRF III
2.27 3<BR>Ensign 1.60 6<BR>MORC
II 1.47 3<BR>MORC III 1.00
2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Thursday<BR>-------------------<BR>Capri
25 23.13 28<BR>J-22 18.20
23<BR>J-24 11.38
15<BR>Sonar 11.13 15<BR>S2 7.9
9.06 12<BR>PHRF I 7.81 10<BR>PHRF
II 7.19 10<BR>Ensign 7.00
9<BR>MORC III 4.50 6<BR>MORC II 3.56
5<BR>PHRF III 3.44 5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face="Courier New">Distribution of boats based on the existing
proposal by Bert.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono">Starting
Order
Sunday Thursday<BR>1) S2
7.9
5.20
9.06<BR>2)
J-24
7.00 11.38<BR>3)
J-22
14.14 18.20<BR>4)
Sonar
7.40
11.13<BR> &nbs
p;
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33.74
49.77</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono">5)
Capri-25
13.53 23.13<BR>6)
PHRF I & Ensign
6.87 14.81<BR>7)
MORC II & III
2.47
7.00<BR>8) PHRF II, III
10.84
10.63<BR>
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-----<BR> &n
bsp;
28.34
55.57<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Odell Tuttle"
<otuttle@gmail.com> <BR>
<DIV>Among his colorful comments, I believe Dan makes some good points (and I
appreciate his willingness to challenge the status quo.)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Trap courses: </DIV>
<DIV>I would also prefer to deal with the heavy traffic in lieu of
the parallel courses. I think we should avoid the trap courses as
much as possible.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regarding the start: </DIV>
<DIV>I can only hope that over-running the J24's will be a problem for me this
year, but I can understand Dan's concern. At a minimum, I would advocate
attempting to keep the starting sequence as consistent as possible between
races. Start sequence <EM>adaptation</EM> is not necessarily an area
that I believe most sailors are passionate about developing. I'd
rather we focus our attention on better ways to negotiate all that traffic
(since some idiot suggested that we not use trap courses.) </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Club fees:</DIV>
<DIV>I'm not sure if the comment was relevant here, nor would I want to
make judgements about the board (I believe they are serving the club
well.) Nonetheless, I do like the idea of raising the minimum number of
races to make the fleets even more competitive. Or, what about the idea
of reducing fees based on series scores? This is racing club,
right? ...why not reward based on performance? I realize I may
be suggesting that my boat pay the highest fees in the fleet, but I would
be excited about the challenge to correct it. <BR> </DIV>
<DIV>My 2-cents.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Odell</DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 3/8/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Dan
McNamara</B> <<A href="mailto:mcnamara@visi.com">mcnamara@visi.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">I do not agree. If the starts are
based on up wind speed we should start ahead of the J 24's. The
sequence is fine if we want short races like T 1 1/3, W 1 1/2, Z R1...
We will also blow through the Sonar fleet and catch the J22's in most
conditions. The question for the fleet is "Are we out there to race or
just show up and be happy with Bert's scraps?"
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Personally I hate the trap course. It takes too long to set
up (postponement flag when the wind is good) It can't
be adjusted. And Tactically it is not
a challenge the race is won with a good start and first
beat especially if the wind has shifted by the time we have
started (80% likely). Or
on Thursday nights guessing what side the wind will hold
the best on the last beat before going flat. I refuse to race any
Triangle especially in heavy air, too dangerous. I
don't mind the traffic on a W2 1/2, It is far better then fetch,
reach, bob, drift and finish. </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>How about an earlier start on Thursdays, traffic is better at 4
then 4:30 so it will take less time to get to the club if
we volunteer to start at 6 we may be able to have the first start
unless the S2 7.9 want to start at 5:57. Or how about each series have
a different start order? </DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>There is another issue I have limited info on so if I
am misinformed please let me know. Recently I have been made
aware that the slip fees have gone up this year and they have gone up more
for our fleet then others. 1. Why did the slip fees go up?
At the November meeting we had a surplus of money. So much so that
$150,000 was budgeted for remodeling a club house we hope to tare down
in the future. Did the new board mismanage the funds
already? 2. I have heard that the fees needed to go up
because the boats participated too much, not enough boat getting 15
race or less and paying the higher rate. If this is true why not raise
the minimum races? More races should mean more crew fees and
partners (anuals or family) and boats that do not participate more will pay
a higher fee for taking up space that there is a waiting list for.
3. Is the length of the slip the scarce resou rce? No depth and
width are. How wide your boat or lift is would be a more fair way of
of having different rates. Or have it by the size of the slip
that way a J22 or Sonar is not paying hundreds of dollars less then a Capri
25 for a space that both boats can fit into. Or raise the rates
for every one and then give rebates for the number of fee paying crew member
the the boat has. 4. Is the Capri fleet being singled out
and targeted? I have sailed in the J22, J24, Sonar and S2 7.9
fleets. All of them have tried to get me to switch to their
fleet especially the J's. Their #1 recruiting line is
"your a good sailor, why don't you sail in a real fleet instead of the
Crappy 25's... they are all a bunch of choppers that can't control there
boats and they don't know the rules." They look at us as a feeder
fleet, to train new crew so they can poach them. Other then that we
just take up space and drink all of the beer. I look at the Capri
fleet as the perfect fleet. Nice, helpful and sharing people.
Very accomplished sailors that have gotten all they can out of a poorly
designed unstable boat. Just ask the any one from a anther fleet who
has helmed the Capri in heavy air. The ruder does not work, is your
sails don't get eased there is nothing the driver can do. Not true in
a Sonar, J22 or J24 all you need in those fleet to win a race is a great
driver and crew that can follow directions. In the Capri fleet you
need at least two crew that can make adjustments before they are asked for
(very much like racing a MC, C, E and other scows, if you have to ask its
too late you are swimming). </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>As a fleet the Capri 25's bring in more money than any other. We
have the largest participation, the most fee paying crew, Family
and Annual members. The J 22' have more boats but it is a 3
person boat and less then half the fleet shows up to most races. The
Capri's are crewed by 4-6 and have great participation. Most boat have
a Thursday crew, Saturday crew and Sunday crew. And we will take
crew off the "crew looking for a ride table" A J 22 can't race with
a beginner on board and the J 24's only race on Thursdays. </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>As a fleet, are we happy being under appreciate? Having the established
minority dictate how the club is run and the direction it is going? If
we are not happy with it are we willing to do anything about it? How
does making it more expensive to have your boat at WYC make sailboat racing
better? Are we better off moving to Shore Wood YC if the J22's J24's
and Sonars don't want us at WYC? </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>I am sorry if I am being a rabble rouser or thinking there is
a conspiracy if there is not. But I am very protective of the C25
fleet, Racing with and against you is the most fun I have ever
had. You are all great people and excelt competitors. The racing
is not any better in the J24 and J22 fleets just the start times and
the courses they get. I do fell that the Capri fleet gets the
short end of the stick and now we are being hit with it. The rate
change is going to affect the quality of racing in our fleet, for some it
will mean not buying a new sail this year or next.
For Consensus it will mean not replacing some failed blocks
and other hardware unless I or other crew pay for it. If that is
needed I will drop my Annual membership and be a crew member
spending the difference on the boat. And not contributing to
the mismanagement of the club. </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>The Capri fleet has proven that more expensive does not meet better
racing. I would like it if we as a fleet actively protected what
we have built and got more involved in the management of the
club.</DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Sincerely,</DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>Dan McNamara</DIV>
<DIV>Capri 25 crew and Annual member</DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=e id=q_11133eee7fa423c3_1>
<DIV>On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Pete Willenbring
wrote:</DIV><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=e id=q_11133eee7fa423c3_3>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I also think this
is a nice change.question will be how often are we going to use the Trap
course..every week, only on Thursdays..etcI know the race committee is
reluctant to set up the parallel courses when winds are shifty.and then we
will be directly behind the ensignswhich is not good for either fleet.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org"
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dutch Bull<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:06
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Kai Kroll; <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org"
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Capri25] Fleet Captains
Meeting</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kai,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I believe the new
start sequence would be a real benefit to the Capri fleet and should greatly
reduce the interaction between our fleet and other fleet on the course. I
would strong support it. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org"
target=_blank>capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org</A> [<A
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target=_blank>mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org</A>]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Kai Kroll<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:51
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org"
target=_blank>capri25@lists.wyc.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Capri25] Fleet Captains
Meeting </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Capri-25ers:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT><BR> </DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The fleet captain
meeting is this Friday night. The agenda and proposed new starting
sequence are in the emails below: </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT><BR> </DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I would
appreciate feedback on the proposed starting sequence and other agenda
items so that I am able to properly represent the fleet at the meeting.
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT><BR> </DIV>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kai</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
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target=_blank>fleets-bounces@lists.wyc.org</A> [<A
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Bert Foster<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:19
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> WYC Fleet
Captains; Mary Beth Hovey; Fred Somme; Jarod Silverman; Blake Middleton
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Fleets] Fleet
Captains Meeting Friday Starting Order Discussion @ Bert's House
7:00pm</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi
All,<BR>We are trying to make it lest congested by using the Trapezoid
courses and maybe changing the order of the start and the courses, left or
right, fleets sail. <BR><BR>The plan below came up last night in a
discussion I had with assistant RC Chairman, Terry Foster. See what
you think.<BR><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Starting Order
Left
Course Right Course
<BR></SPAN></B>1) S2 7.9
X<BR>2) J-24
X<BR>3) &nbs
p; J-22
X<BR>4) Sonar
X<BR>5) Capri-25
X
<BR>6) PHRF I & Ensign
<FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT> X<BR>7) &nb
sp; MORC II & III
X<BR>8) PHRF I, II,
III
X <BR><BR>The plan here is:
</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> to start the fleets generally in the order
of upwind speed so a later starting fleet doesn't catch an earlier
starting fleet at the 1st windward mark, as has been happening in some
cases now. </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">sail most of the one-design fleets that are
rigged pretty much the same (fractional rig, big jibs in front and small
jibs in back) on the left hand course. They will not have a tendency to
catch each other and the fastest S2 7.9 may not lap into the Sonars as
they have to make up 2 full legs and have a 9 minute head start.
</SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">these fleets are generally less strung out than
the others. Therefore, if we start them with the fastest boats
first, they won't be running over one another. </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">moving the Ensign after the Capri-25 means the
Capri-25s won't have the problem running over them on the first beat,
particularly at the WW mark, as was a problem for the J-22s. Note
the Ensigns do not come out for Sunday, only Thursday. Moving the
Ensigns to star with PHRF I means 2 small fleets and the PHRF Is
can mostly sail away from the Ensigns right off the start (as the Sonars
have been doing) and the Ensign won't be run over by the smaller MORC
boats as they were by the J-22s. </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">By
having the Capri-25s start in this new slot they won't be run over by
the S2 7.9s and they probably won't be running over many Sonars on the
first beat. </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">By
having the Capri-25s start first of the right course boats, they will
have clear sailing for at least their first 2 legs, maybe more. By
the time they start to mix it up with the other right course boats, they
will be well strung out. As they do mix it up with the handicap
boats they should be able to quickly sail through them. Some of
the handicaps boats will also be on a triangle course out of their way.
</SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Regards,<BR>Bert<BR><BR><BR>Hi All,<BR>Enough of
you responded that Friday is the best time. If you can't make it,
send someone who is experienced in your fleet as your
representative. One one person per fleet plus the RC of Bert, Blake,
Jared, and Fred. <BR><BR>I will provide beverages. MB, maybe bring a
bottle of wine you like. I have some but you may not like it, as I
don't know wine.<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><B><U><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Meeting
Agenda</SPAN></FONT></U></B> </P>
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<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fleet Captains Duties </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Possible Starting Order Change </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Each Fleets Desired Courses and length.
Come prepared. </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Protests, out of fleet courtesy, and "CROSS OR
TACK" </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Anything else anybody wants to bring up
</SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Regards,<BR>Bert
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