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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have no major gripes with the build quality of
the Capri 25. Ok, so it has zero back up plates. Ok, so they could
have made that front tang longer so that it'd be able to be bolted to the hull
with more than just one bolt. Ok, so the spreaders are a bit
cheesey. Ok, so they use cheap, plastic sheaves. Ok,
....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But no, really, its a great little boat! But
they just could have done a better job. I mean, come one. That front
tang for the headstay? Would it have killed them to have made it a
whopping six inches longer and then to have bolted it to the hull, so that all
of us boat owners didn't have to freaking do it for them? On the other
hand, my boat has lasted since '82 without peeling up the deck, but
still...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Emanuel.Ruedenberg@bsci.com
href="mailto:Emanuel.Ruedenberg@bsci.com">Ruedenberg, Emanuel (Rudy)</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=steve.truax@comcast.net
href="mailto:steve.truax@comcast.net">steve.truax@comcast.net</A> ; <A
title=ghselvin@ix.netcom.com href="mailto:ghselvin@ix.netcom.com">Glenn
Selvin</A> ; <A title=mkhammett@sprintmail.com
href="mailto:mkhammett@sprintmail.com">Mark Hammett</A> ; <A
title=garry.cooke@gmail.com href="mailto:garry.cooke@gmail.com">Garry
Cooke</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ghselvin@ix.netcom.com
href="mailto:ghselvin@ix.netcom.com">Glenn Selvin</A> ; <A
title=capri25@lists.wyc.org
href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org">capri25@lists.wyc.org</A> ; <A
title=kenreiff@gmail.com href="mailto:kenreiff@gmail.com">Kenneth Reiff</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Capri25] Backstay question
-- Reminder on WYC Capri 25 Fleet Rules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Steve,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Well
put……<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However in my opinion
the notion of a boat having questionable quality and design is shared by many
another boat owners (BO’s).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a BO of a Shock
Santana , I too have had many a day when I shook my head at the choices of
hardware and design that it came with. Just try and
refiberglassing a rotted ballast tank!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I actually
think almost every BO has moments when they feel this way, unless you are
Russell Coutts or something…..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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'Rudy' Ruedenberg<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></I></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:steve.truax@comcast.net">steve.truax@comcast.net</A>
[mailto:steve.truax@comcast.net] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:15
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Glenn Selvin;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark Hammett</st1:PersonName>; Garry Cooke;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ruedenberg, Emanuel</st1:PersonName>
(Rudy)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Glenn Selvin; <A
href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org">capri25@lists.wyc.org</A>; Kenneth
Reiff<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Capri25]
Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC Capri 25 Fleet
Rules</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Great reading...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As for why the WYC Capri Fleet bylaws prohibit this
type of modification: (mostly for WYC
members)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> fleet
has debated the bylaws around three fundamental
points:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1) One-Design: When does a modification to the
original design/specifications change the dynamics of the boat beyond the
one-design concept?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2) Affordability: In the spirit of providing a equal
playing field at what point does the cost of a change to the original
design/specification inhibit the ability of some boats to keep
pace?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">3) Safety: Kind of speaks for
itself.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Unfortuantely my memory, of the meeting in which the
backstay was discussed, cannot recall the exact reasons given for
continuing to require the split backstay. However I am certain that all three
points above entered into the decision.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Note: I find it interesting that in this thread almost
everyone agrees that Catalina did not build the <st1:place
w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> with attention to quality and durability. Yet we
all push the boats beyond our own opinion of the construction quality.
Such as flying a 155 in 18+ knots of wind then looking for ways to
eliminate the resulting sag of the headstay. Just my two
cents.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steve Truax<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Persistence 263<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<BR>From: "Glenn Selvin" <ghselvin@ix.netcom.com> <BR>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We are a Southern California based <st1:place
w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> 25. In fact, we used the factory tangs as
attachment points for our cascading backstay, and upon that backstay
upgrade, I decided that I'd better beef up our headstay
attachment.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My plan is simply to leave the factory bow fitting
in place, and to simply install a new tang, through bolted to the
bow. That tang will not be welded to the bow fitting, as I don't
feel like going through the gyrations of removing that factory fitting so as
to take it to a welder. Instead, I'll simply install the new bow tang,
laying it right over the existing factory piece. Thus, the headstay
will attach to BOTH the existing factory piece, AND the bow tang through
bolted to the bow.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Why Catalina didn't do this to begin with is beyond
me. And as to the Wayzata fleet? Why not change your bylaws and
allow the backstay upgrade? Its much nicer than the "pinch the wires
together" system.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=mkhammett@sprintmail.com href="mailto:mkhammett@sprintmail.com">Mark
Hammett</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=garry.cooke@gmail.com href="mailto:garry.cooke@gmail.com">Garry
Cooke</A> ; <A title=Emanuel.Ruedenberg@bsci.com
href="mailto:Emanuel.Ruedenberg@bsci.com">Ruedenberg,Emanuel (Rudy)</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cc:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=capri25@lists.wyc.org
href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org">capri25@lists.wyc.org</A> ; <A
title=kenreiff@gmail.com href="mailto:kenreiff@gmail.com">Kenneth
Reiff</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:38 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re:
[Capri25] Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC Capri 25 Fleet
Rules<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Greetings Everyone;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
would like to remind all the local Capri 25 Fleet members that are
reviewing this discussion thread that the installation of a cascaded
backstay is a departure from the local fleet rules - A cascaded
backstay was installed on Capri 25 #009 "Divine Inspiration" and was later
disallowed because it altered the original running rig as defined by the
local rules. For all the out of town Capri's its a great way to get
additional purchase and manual force to reduce headstay sag and flex the
mast, bending the center forward to force for a flatter main in heavy
air. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Engineering Notes: Cascading Backstays and
Headsail Tacks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Backstay -- The angle of the backstay is very
important due to the roach of the standard mainsails. PHRF mains that
conform to the original <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> 25 rules
(the PHRF standard) have a greater roach than our local Capris. This means
that cascading blocks should use the original chainplate positions on the
stern and not be lead directly to the eye on the cockpit deck aft of the
rudder post. That eye is for the adjuster rig only. If you cascade
to the eye on deck the backstay angle is reduced by as much as 6 inches,
which makes low wind tacks and gybes of the mainsail difficult. Especially
so if you use a small amount of backstay to create a better entry on the
headsail for sailing up wind. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
headstay plate -- This can be changed to the J24 hardware with
minimal alterations (but to bend it with a hammer and vise may weaken the
plate). Several of the local Capris in the WYC fleet have had a
6" L x 3/16" T x 1" W - SS chainplate welded to
the original tack plate and have 1 to 3 countersunk 3/8"
dia. screws and a reinforcement block on the inside with fender
washers and lock nuts. The total length of the chainplate addition is up
to the owner but 6 inches (with 2 holes) is typical. The
rub-rail on the bow point does not need to be removed; just slightly
altered to accommodate the chainplate thickness and width when
installing it underneath. I use a 1" chissle to pry the aluminum
rail from the hull. The chissle will stretch the aluminum
nicely without breaking it. Just be gentle and be sure you remove the
mounting screws under the rubber (the most forward ones)
first.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">One
good thing about adding the chainplate in the bow -- it you
t-bone someone -- the damage to your bow will be significantly reduced --
just ask the guys on Fore Sail who tapped Ham-It-Up! this
year...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Happy
sailing, <BR><BR><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Mark
Hammett</st1:PersonName><BR><st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> 25
#370<BR>Ham-It-Up!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Garry Cooke
<BR><GARRY.COOKE@GMAIL.COM>Sent: Dec 30, 2008 9:53 AM <BR>To:
"<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ruedenberg, Emanuel</st1:PersonName> (Rudy)"
<BR><EMANUEL.RUEDENBERG@BSCI.COM>Cc: capri25@lists.wyc.org, Kenneth
Reiff <BR><KENREIFF@GMAIL.COM>Subject: Re: [Capri25] Backstay question
<BR><BR>sorry I noticed a typing error, the 35% should be 25%.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Garry Cooke
<<A href="mailto:garry.cooke@gmail.com"
target=_blank>garry.cooke@gmail.com</A>>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You need to be careful how much force you are
putting into your boat. The backstay tension should be limited to no
more than 35% the breaking strain of the backstay wire. If you put too
much tension in the rig, you will increase significantly the compression
force in the mast and risk damage to the bottom of your boat. I know of
two Express 30's where the owners put too much back stay tension and
drove the mast down, and cracked the bottom of the boat, and in one
case, let water in. I also know of some Viking 28's where the deck has
been buckled by too much backstay tension. It would be wise to get a
Loos gauge to ensure that you are not over stressing your rig.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:24 AM,
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ruedenberg, Emanuel</st1:PersonName> (Rudy)
<<A href="mailto:Emanuel.Ruedenberg@bsci.com"
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<A href="mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org"
target=_blank>capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org</A> [mailto:<A
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Kenneth
Reiff<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday,
December 30, 2008 2:28 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org"
target=_blank>capri25@lists.wyc.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Capri25] Backstay
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">We've replaced the standard "pinch the two
wires together" type of backstay adjuster with a very nice, and
powerful, cascade system as we've always had problems getting the
backstay tight enough to get rid of headstay sag while in
breeze. With this new cascading system, trust me, we're not
going to have headstay problems anymore.<BR> <BR>My
question? I looked below at the very front of the boat in front
of that little wooden piece, and the headstay fitting is only through
bolted at the top with no back up plate, and only one bolt in the
front stem, under the rub rail. Typical Catalina
construction... cheap. <BR> <BR>Has anyone in the
Wayzata fleet improved their backstay adjusting arrangement with a
more powerful cascade? And has anyone ever beefed up the
headstay piece? I'm thinking of removing it, then welding on a much
longer tang, so that I have about three bolts t hrough the stem of the
boat, not just one. Plus, Catalina used no back up plates, only
washers, which scares me. Has anyone put on too much backstay
tension and yanked the headstay fitting right off the freaking
deck? Or am I just being paranoid because these boats are built
so poorly? Thoughts on yanking off your headstay fitting would
be appreciated. If you could, please email me at <BR
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Ken Reiff<BR>Email: <A
href="mailto:kenreiff@gmail.com"
target=_blank>kenreiff@gmail.com</A><BR>Cell:
562-637-6630<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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