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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I drilled three holes in the bottom of
Fly By Night’s next to the keel… ala Red Shift. Almost 4
gallons of water came out. The water is trapped between the core layers…
all though from the top hull it’s dry as a bone. This liquid
stained my pole barn concrete floor all the way to the drain 35 feet. Greg,
I wish it was spilled beer. I think somebody tipped over the bucket. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I recommend everyone to drill holes in
the bottom of the hull in the fall to dry out their core. It has nothing
to do with ZMs. The only <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> (9 out of 10) that
I have drilled that did not have water drain from the bottom of the hull was
Molly… and we all know how meticulous Mark is. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I think Greg is right that it mostly
rainwater but that water breaks down the inner fiberglass, blisters, keel
support and rots out the core. A gallon of water weighs 8.3 lbs. If
you want to displace 25 extra pounds around the race course leave the water in.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>It’s really easy to fill with epoxy
and syringe in the spring. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I have heard rumors that John on <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City> will be giving a
symposium on how to drop the keel and fix the rotten keel supports. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Doug Dickerson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Greg Seifert<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 17, 2010
3:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:place w:st="on">capri</st1:place>
25'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Capri25] <st1:place
w:st="on">Capri</st1:place>'s and Zebras.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I also think that
being very careful with ZMs is a great idea. However the law doesn’t
ban transporting water in boats, it bans transporting “water from
infested waters”. I have always been under the belief that the
liquids collected in our bilge are in fact rainwater and spilled beer.
Our cockpit scuppers do take in lake water from time to time, but I don’t
think this can get to the bilge. Do you guys think you’re getting
lake water in the bilge?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>While it may be wise
from the perspective of keeping the hull innards dry, I’d hate to force
everybody to drill holes in their boats if it really doesn’t have
anything to do with ZMs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Danke,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Greg Seifert<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Red Shift<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org
[mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Dan McNamara<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 17, 2010
2:47 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Odell Tuttle; capri 25<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Capri25] <st1:place
w:st="on">Capri</st1:place>'s and Zebras.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>There are 2 blind sumps in all <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place>'s.
Consensus drilled 2 holes, one on each side of the keel with a hole saw.
Under the cabin sole there is an air gap, a layer of plywood and another
air gap. You need to drill through to the second air gap. All are
welcome to look a Consensus. Smitten also has these holes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Odell Tuttle wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Andy,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks. That's a good idea.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dan, can you get some photos? I bet Catapult will let you look at
theirs. I have one too, but it's ugly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>OT<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Andy Spence-Parsons <<a
href="mailto:andy.spence-parsons@comcast.net">andy.spence-parsons@comcast.net</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color="#000066"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000066'>OT -
this is a big deal. I know Dallas and the WYC board want to be seen to be
out-in-front of this issue. Maybe you can raise it quickly with the
technical committee, get some photos of the modification he recommends, and
then get it up online. Haul-out is fast approaching.<br>
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Let me know.<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:dallas@dallasjohnson.net">dallas@dallasjohnson.net</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org">capri25@lists.wyc.org</a><br>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:19:40 PM<br>
Subject: [Capri25] <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place>'s and Zebras.</span></font><font
size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#003333'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2 color="#003333"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'>Capri</span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#003333'> owners.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'>I met with the DNR
this morning regarding the imminent Zebra invasion and one thing we've learned
about Zebra's is that it's critical for all boaters to ensure their boats do
not have standing water in the boat when leaving the lake.This allows the boat to
dry completely and kill zebras. Yes, I know your boat will freeze over in the
winter to kill zebras, but the law is to not transport any water in boats on
the road. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2 color="#003333"
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'>Capri</span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Verdana;color:#003333'>'s are unique to in that water can be trapped in the
bilge under the floor pan. There is no accessible access from which to pump out
water from a <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place> bilge. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'>My <st1:place w:st="on">Capri</st1:place>
had a $10 access port under the wooden floorboard (which we had removed for
racing). Honestly, any self respecting racer should have an access port to
pump/mop water out of the bilge so the boat is not heavy, the keel brace
doesn't rot, and now to eliminate standing water where Zebras might be
transported. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'>My recommendation is
that the fleet consider how to best implement access ports in your bilges, and
then make it a rule in the fleet rules to require installation. Zebras
might seem like a little deal now, but this will change significantly in just a
few years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#003333" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#003333'>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color="#003333" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
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