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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I saw were people were having difficulties with these old Capri 25's and their keel's. Do not feel you are alone in this problem. All old Sonars need to have their keel repaired and it's not cheap. Carmella and I had to have Sesame Street repaired last fall by Tim at Shorewood Yacht Club. It was expensive.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Carmella has told me a story that when she was a partner in Ham It up, they needed keel repair. They took at the white bear boat works. Carmella tells the story that they emailed her that they had built a wooden box out of two by fours in which they could drop the keel and then effect the repairs up inside. She said she got an email from them saying that, "we dropped the keel today and the earth trembled".<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have below put a link To the Sonar website so you can look at their rules, and I have put some of the sonar rules in red below<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bert<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Some of the Sonar rules; <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>see</span></b> <b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'><a href="http://www.sonar.org/">http://www.sonar.org/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:red'>One throwable flotation device such as a cushion or ring with <br>positive buoyancy of not less than 3 kg. <br>(iii) One hand bailer or bucket of not less than 6 liters capacity. <br>(iv) One hand bilge pump. <br>(v) One anchor of not less than 3.6 kg in weight and with not less than <br>30 m of continuous line of not less than 8 mm in diameter<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:red'>C.5.2 MAINTENANCE <br>Routine maintenance such as painting and polishing is permitted without re- <br>measurement and re-certification. <br>C.5.3 FITTINGS <br>Fittings type, quantity and placement shall be in conformance with Section D. <br>C.5.4 LIMITATIONS <br>(a) Application of fillers to the hull for fairing is prohibited, except within 70 <br>mm of the bailers. <br>(b) Sanding on the hull is permitted to the extent that the laminates shall not <br>be exposed. <br>(c) The hull may be repaired provided that the shape, structure and <br>characteristics of the original are not altered. <br>C.6 HULL APPENDAGES <br>C.6.1 DIMENSIONS <br>The keel and rudder dimensions shall be in compliance with Section E. <br>C.6.2 MAINTENANCE <br>Routine maintenance such as painting and polishing is permitted without re- <br>measurement and re-certification. <br>C.6.3 KEEL SUMP REPAIR <br>The sump may be reinforced by the two following methods: <br>(a) Two panels of either marine plywood or glass fiber may be fitted into the <br>base of the keel sump and extending up to within 25 mm of the cockpit <br>floor. The panels may span completely across space available running <br>awartships. The panels may be attached with glass fiber to the sides. Final <br>panel thickness shall not exceed 18 mm. Holes or spaces shall be left in <br>the panels to allow any water to flow from one side to the other so that <br>bailing may be unimpeded. The panels shall not interfere with access to <br>the keel bolts or cause chafe on lifting slings. <br>(b) Layers of glass fiber may be laid up on the port and starboard sides of the <br>keel sump. The additional layers shall not exceed 5 mm in thickness. <br>C.6.4 LIMITATIONS <br>(a) The rudder blade and keel may be faired to the limits of the <br>measurements specified in section E. The application of fillers is <br>permitted. <br>(b) Sanding the keel for fairing is permitted to the extent that the lead shall <br>not be exposed. <br>(c) Sanding the rudder for fairing is permitted to the extent that the laminate <br>shall not be exposed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan McNamara<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Temple Blackwood; capri 25<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Capri25] Capri 25 Mainsheet Magazine Tech editor looking for writers...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All my suggestion for fixing a design flaw simply and for less money were deemed against the rules by our fleet rules committee. Repairing the keel / hull and compression post area the way allowed is a hell I would not wish on anyone.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Don't run aground<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>On dry land drill inspection holes through the false floor.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=2 type=1><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>Keep it dry<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><ol start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>inspect your tailor pads<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=3 type=1><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>if you pick up your boat and it lifts off the pads before the keel support you are already damaged<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><ol start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>once you have your mast up <o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=4 type=1><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>below deck sting a line between your cain plates and make a mark on your compression post<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>Pull your backstay on full<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>see how much the compression post goes down<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>if you can measure it with a ruler your boat is already sinking.<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><ol start=4 type=1><ol start=4 type=1><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'>Just a matter of how fast..<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ol><ol start=5 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>When it does grab your, motor, gas and battery so you don't have to send a diver for them<o:p></o:p></li></ol><ol start=5 type=1><ol start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>fill out the scuttling form<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>create an account to see the pictures<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=119553">http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=119553</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you can't tell by now I am very jaded about the lack of vision our rules committee has regarding keeping Capri 25 sail boat racing: safe, fun, and affordable. The reason these boats are cheep is they are poorly designed in the area all the loads aggregate and there is not a easy way to inspect or repair it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The new rule that sets the minimum weight for an anchor to 8 pounds (excluding tackle) is another example of this. Another rule that is not about safety, fun or affordability. This spring when your anchor is weighed without tackle attached (shackle or chain) and it is a 1/4 pound shy of 8 pounds, have fun buying a new one for between $40 and $140. If it was about safe, fun, and affordable, the rule would read a minimum of 8 pounds +/- ? including tackle but not road. That way if you are a quarter pound light you can add some chain for $3 and be safer. Someone with a 5 pound anchor and 3 pounds of chain has more holding power than a 8 pound with no chain (safe, fun, and affordable). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=300 height=210 id=fb51156e-1648-4970-9f98-f07d469d0d71 src="cid:image001.png@01CE3F7D.F51EA050"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_5928950_size-anchor-chain.html">http://www.ehow.com/how_5928950_size-anchor-chain.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Only one other boat voted for my proposed ammendment and a rule that is less safe, fun and affordable passed instead. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For a fleet that doesn't act on most of my suggestion, why do you keep asking for them?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Temple Blackwood <<a href="mailto:temple.blackwood@infor.com">temple.blackwood@infor.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dan, anything you want to share about your boat rebuilding project or tips on keeping these boats floating?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.infor.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><image001.gif></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#686B73'>Temple Blackwood</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#686B73'> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#686B73'>- Systems Configuration Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#686B73'>office: 651-767-4063 | mobile: 651-894-3683 | home: 651-699-0598</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:9.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#686B73'><a href="mailto:temple.blackwood@infor.com"><span style='color:purple'>temple.blackwood@infor.com</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span> | <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.infor.com"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.infor.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>John Speltz [mailto:johnspeltz@<a href="http://comcast.net"><span style='color:purple'>comcast.net</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:59 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Temple Blackwood<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>FW: [Capri25] Capri 25 Mainsheet Magazine Tech editor looking for writers...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Maybe you forward to Dam McNamara, he should write a book on the repair of a Capri before they all crack in half and sink.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org"><span style='color:purple'>capri25-bounces@lists.wyc.org</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:capri25-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.wyc.org"><span style='color:purple'>bounces@lists.wyc.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>SHNOOL Schramm<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:52 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:capri25@lists.wyc.org"><span style='color:purple'>capri25@lists.wyc.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[Capri25] Capri 25 Mainsheet Magazine Tech editor looking for writers...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;background-position:initial initial;background-repeat:initial initial'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I've introduced myself before, but will again, since it seems activity is coming up again with the promise of better weather approaching (hopefully soon). I am John Schramm, sailing out of Greentown, PA... The group over at<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>conscripted me to edit tech articles for the Mainsheet magazine, specifically for the Capri 25.<br><br>It's my hope, since you folks have the largest active fleet going of Capri 25s, I might be able to drum up some writers/tinkerers. Since we're talking technical articles here, any kind of upgrades/repairs you may have performed and don't mind sharing, would be greatly appreciated. Simple projects, or complex, I would love to hear from you. Pictures are a huge plus.<br><br>If you aren't already familiar with the mainsheet magazine, it's a magazine by Catalina Yachts, for Catalina owners. They cover them all from the Cat 14.2 to the Morgan line. The Capri 25 group is, I feel, under represented. This is a great way other Catalina product line owners to get information on the Capri 25. Complimentary subscription to the quarterly mainsheet magazine comes with your paid membership to the association.<br><br>If you have any thoughts or ideas, or upgrades to share, please contact me<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span class=staffdata>capri25tech @</span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><span class=staffdata><a href="http://catalina-capri-25s.org"><span style='color:purple'>catalina-capri-25s.org</span></a></span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>Capri25 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Capri25@lists.wyc.org"><span style='color:purple'>Capri25@lists.wyc.org</span></a><br><a href="http://lists.wyc.org/mailman/listinfo/capri25"><span style='color:purple'>http://lists.wyc.org/mailman/listinfo/capri25</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>