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<div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Why would you be running an outboard motor inside the cabin?</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">I think the stickers should go on the finger pier to warn anyone entering the lake area that there is a motor within that space that produces CO gas.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div style="">I further suggest that Lithium Ion batteries are extreme fire hazards ( <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXiwg4B-CA" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class="enhancr_card_7094672953">The Grand Tour: Hammonds burning wreck of the Rimac</a>) and Holly should have a nomex suit and fire extinguishers.</div><div><br></div><div id="ydp300c39ebenhancr_card_7094672953" class="ydp300c39ebyahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp300c39ebymail-preserve-class ydp300c39ebymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" data-url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXiwg4B-CA" data-embed-url="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wgXiwg4B-CA" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXiwg4B-CA" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important" class="ydp300c39ebyahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydp300c39ebcard-wrapper ydp300c39ebyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydp300c39ebcard ydp300c39ebyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp300c39ebcard-primary-image-cell" background="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/PbNx5qklQWv9ZaRisYKdMg--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wgXiwg4B-CA/maxresdefault.jpg.cf.jpg" bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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line-height: 19px; margin: 0px 0px 6px; font-family: Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">The Grand Tour: Hammonds burning wreck of the Rimac</h2><p class="ydp300c39ebcard-description" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 16px; margin: 0px; color: rgb(151, 155, 167);">After Richard Hammond drove his Rimac Concept One from a cliff in the Hemberg Hillclimb, the car went on fire. L...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br></div><div>FYI, Uta can translate the video, but suffice to say that battery had so much juice that it burned for days.</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><span>Mike</span></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div>
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On Wednesday, April 24, 2019, 12:11:18 PM CDT, Dallas Johnson via J22 <j22@lists.wyc.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611"><div><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#003333;font-size:10pt;"><div>Sophia's Law is a poster child of poorly written legislation that only has a loose correlation with safe boating practices. </div><div><br>My understanding is that J22's are not required to have a detector because of what Will said. However we are required to have large orange decals at the helm, the boarding area of the cockpit, and the cabin because we have an "enclosed space". <br><br></div><div>I have unnecessary registration decals on my bow, but I have zero intention of placing two large orange idiot stickers in my cockpit, and one inside the cabin, of my boat. Sorry. Not going to do it. </div><div><br></div><div>dj </div><div><br>Here's a graphical flowchart:</div><div><a href="https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/co-poster-boat.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/co-poster-boat.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div><img src="https://lakeofthewoodsmn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/sophias-law-stickers-227x300.jpg" alt="Sophia's Law stickers" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" data-id="1556139247803"></div>
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Subject: Re: [J22-Fleet 1] [External] CO Stickers<br>
From: Will Foster via J22 <<a href="mailto:j22@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">j22@lists.wyc.org</a>><br>
Date: Wed, April 24, 2019 10:50 am<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:j22@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">j22@lists.wyc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:j22@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">j22@lists.wyc.org</a>><br>
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<div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611ydp56abe32byahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div> <div>When looking at the DNR definition I don't think the J22 has a designated 'sleeping' compartment and we don't have ALL OF THE FOLLOWING</div><div><br></div><div><div><b><i>From DNR Site</i></b></div><div>Motorboats, regardless of fuel type, must have a functioning marine CO detector if they have an enclosed accommodation compartment, which is defined as a motorboat with <b>all of the following</b>:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Designated sleeping accommodations</div><div>2) A galley area with a sink</div><div>3) A head (toilet) compartment</div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The J22 DOES fall under this description, which does NOT require a CO2 sensor</div><div><br></div><div><div><b>Enclosed occupancy compartment is defined as:</b> </div><div>One contiguous space surrounded by boat structure that may be occupied by a person</div><div><br></div><div>If your boat just has an occupancy compartment you are not required by law to have a CO detector in the space, however, it is highly recommended for the safety of all passengers that a detector be placed in any enclosed compartment.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span><a href="https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/boatwater/sophias-law.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/boatwater/sophias-law.html</a></span><br></div><div><br></div> </div><div id="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611yahoo_quoted_6377218040" class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"> <div> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019, 8:44:30 AM CDT, Smith, Craig A (AME MN14) via J22 <<a href="mailto:j22@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">j22@lists.wyc.org</a>> wrote: </div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><div id="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611"><div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611WordSection1"> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Arguable whether a J/22, with no cabin doors for head, stateroom, or galley, requires a CO monitor. The DNR was supposed to send stickers with registration package, but they never did. Question: where does the “helm” sticker go? The application diagram shows a center console. Lady at the DNR told me to wrap it around the tiller. I told her that was ridiculous and decided it was the ENGINE’S throttle/tiller, so I put a sticker directly on the engine. </span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">In Annapolis, I found my anchor rode too short, so I bought 100’ at West marine – still too short until the measurer told me “you can stretch it dude.” Funny regatta story from Yappa: he was told his paddle was too short. So he duct-taped a plastic glass on the end and they said “fine now.”</span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;">Appreciate the tip on letting out max tow line: in addition to less stretch/shock absorbing, I’ve seen crew tie it off so short I’m afraid I’ll hit boat ahead if they slow suddenly.</span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;"> </span></div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611yqt8173433446" id="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611yqt76746"><div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> J22 [<a href="mailto:j22-bounces@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mailto:j22-bounces@lists.wyc.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russell Swansen via J22<br clear="none"> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:20 PM<br clear="none"> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:j22@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">j22@lists.wyc.org</a><br clear="none"> <b>Subject:</b> [External] [J22-Fleet 1] CO Stickers</div> </div> </div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal">J22 sailors,</div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal">Perhaps I am the only one, but until I received Lars’s message today I was unware of the MN DNR’s CO sticker requirement if you have a motor on your boat. At the third place I went today I managed to secure the required stickers. A set of 3 is required. I have 4 extra sets if anyone wants a set. </div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal"> </div> <div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611MsoNormal">Russ</div></div> </div> </div></div><div class="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611yqt8173433446" id="ydp77c208c0yiv9389521611yqt95806">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">J22 mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:J22@lists.wyc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">J22@lists.wyc.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.wyc.org/mailman/listinfo/j22" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.wyc.org/mailman/listinfo/j22</a></div></div> </div> </div><hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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