[J24 ListSrv] Fwd: [Fleets] Is There Any Appetite for Any of This?

Tue Jul 15 09:34:05 CDT 2014

We had a great time when Chewbacca raced in the IRC Nationals about five
years back in Little Traverse Bay (Harbor Springs, MI) when there was one
day of racing that included the "Tour of the Bay" race. They had fixed
buoys spaced around the bay (
http://www.ltyc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Race-Buoy-Locations.pdf) and
the course would be various roundings (to port and starboard) at the
letter-designated marks. Interesting way to break up W/L courses and
include a different kind of tactical thinking.

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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:22 AM, eric at ecsynergy.com <eric at ecsynergy.com>
wrote:

>  Maybe for something like the ugotta, We could include a race like this:
> Drop some bouys for a course that takes us to the corners of the lake,
> includes some w/l component then back to the club.
>
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> I'd volunteer to help with diagrams if needed.
>
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> Eric Christenson
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> ------ Original message------
>
> *From: *Shawn Patterson
>
> *Date: *Mon, Jul 14, 2014 7:54 PM
>
> *To: *Sean Delaney;
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> *Cc: *j24 at lists.wyc.org;
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> *Subject:*Re: [J24 ListSrv] Fwd: [Fleets] Is There Any Appetite for Any
> of This?
>
>
> Thanks to all the feedback so far.  Once I get most responses I will
> summarize for Bert and the Wyc team...  Very helpful and appreciated - so
> much experience and history in our fleet to tap into.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Shawn Patterson
> office: 763.205.5553
> cell: 716.432.3545
> spatterson at resolutionmedical.com
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> On Jul 14, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Sean Delaney <sean_p_delaney at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> The Capri regatta and so now the Star of the North do a 'round the isle
> race. But they have an extra day for it.
>
> I still enjoy W/L's, lakes are endlessly fascinating to sail even if the
> course sounds boring it isn't at all to me. I suppose if I lived in
> California I might feel different.  Doing W/L's also allows one to study
> and prepare for regattas.
>
> To increase participation the club should hold races when it's windy and
> be more reluctant to cancel when storms might develop. WYC sailors often
> struggle in away regattas (which are often windy) because they have not
> been given the chance.
>
> Sean
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 14, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Greg Bittle <gregbittle at bittlelaw.com>
> wrote:
>
> Outside of a class regulated districts or other such event, I've often
> thought that an open course race could be fun, run it like a commodore cup.
>  At the 25th anniversary regatta in Newport it was fun, they ran us a
> series of windward lewards and ran a full around the island open course.
>  It could be a nice twist to U Gotta? We've got the lake for it.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Shawn Patterson <
> spatterson at resolutionmedical.com> wrote:
>
>> J24 Sailors: See the message from Bert on alternatives to W/L racing and
>> let me know if you have any feedback.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bert Foster <bert at apexq.com>
>> Date: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:49 AM
>> Subject: [Fleets] Is There Any Appetite for Any of This?
>> To: "WYC Fleet Captains Server (fleets at lists.wyc.org)" <
>> fleets at lists.wyc.org>, "WYC Board List Server (Board at lists.wyc.org)" <
>> Board at lists.wyc.org>
>>
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Contrary to the national trend of significant reductions in sailboat
>> racing participation, the WYC Minnetonka station for 30 years plus has had
>> a steady high level of participation. We countered the national trend of
>> reduced participation with the programs that we run, and do we want to
>> counter the current national trend of offering alternatives to
>> Windward/leeward racing?
>>
>>
>>
>> However the WYC Apostle Islands Station has recently introduced
>> "mid-distance racing" extremely successfully, and has significantly
>> increased participation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bert
>>
>>
>> Offering Alternatives to Windward/Leeward Racing
>>
>> *Published on* July 7, 2014 Scuttlebutt
>>
>> |
>>
>> For some years, the measure of a serious regatta has been strongly tied
>> to how well the course axis is aligned with the wind direction and whether
>> the starting line is perfectly square to the wind. But the pendulum of
>> participant opinion is moving slowly toward less rigidity and more fun.
>>
>> The NOOD regattas in San Diego, Seattle, and Chicago offered racing on
>> random leg courses. One fourth of the entrants at Long Beach Race Week
>> competed around government marks, oil islands, and breakwaters. Even the
>> TP52 World Championship in Porto Cervo, Italy on June 10-14 scheduled two
>> days for windward/leeward racing and three days for coastal courses.
>>
>> This year, more and more events are offering alternatives to
>> windward/leeward racing.
>>
>> Perhaps the best idea in 2014 has come from Charleston Race Week, where
>> the last race of the day for the HPR Class was a “race to the dock”.
>>
>> The course began with windward/leeward legs, but then the final leg took
>> the fleet home through the harbor to a finish near their marina. On board
>> the Carkeek 40 Spookie, navigator Bora Gulari said this middle-distance
>> addition was a welcome change. “These boats sail so much faster than they
>> can go under engine power, and it’s ten times more fun to race back to the
>> harbor than it is to drive a motorboat back.”
>>
>> Here are a few upcoming events that have come across the Scuttlebutt
>> radar…
>>
>> ** The 2014 edition of the Half Ton Classics Cup
>> <http://www.halftonclasseurope.net/> will take place in
>> Saint-Quay-Portrieux, Brittany, France on July 7-11, with the racing to
>> have a mixture of windward/leeward and coastal courses.*
>>
>> ** The  2014 New York Yacht Club Race Week
>> <http://www.nyyc.org/yachting/racing/nyyc-race-week> on July 12-19 will
>> include, in addition to buoy racing, a mid-distance race, plus racing may
>> also include using government marks and a compact “stadium” course inside
>> Narragansett Bay by Fort Adams.*
>>
>> ** The  Cape Panwa Hotel Phuket Raceweek <http://www.phuketraceweek.com/>
>> in Thailand on July 16-20 is the season-opening event of the 2014/15
>> AsianYachting Grand Prix – a series of 12 of the best regattas in Asia. The
>> schedule seeks to provide a mix of courses to suit all boat types, offering
>> windward/ leewards, passage races, and island courses.*
>>
>> *Tags:* growing the sport
>> <http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/tag/growing-the-sport/>, Keeping it
>> real <http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/tag/keeping-it-real/>
>>
>> - See more at:
>> http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/07/07/offering-alternatives-windwardleeward-racing/#sthash.kuzTkHoB.dpuf
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