[Sonar] RE: Sonar Digest, Vol 2,
Issue 5- Sailing seminar (Chuck Bangasser)
Chuck Bangasser
Chuck at BestTechnologyInc.com
Thu Oct 6 13:36:09 CDT 2005
In response to Frank's email regarding a spring Sonar training seminar,
Cheryl and I would be happy to assist including lodging in our Plymouth
home. We can also assist with any other activities as needed. Great idea
Frank! Now, who knows them well enough (Frank/CJ?) to extend the invitation
and see if they are interested.
Chuck & Cheryl (Happy Hours)
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4. Re: 2006 Sailing "Seminar" (John Sligh)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 17:45:00 -0500
From: Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com
Subject: [Sonar] Second hand sails
To: sonar at lists.wyc.org
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As most of you know, the sails for #40 are going to be donated to a good
cause this winter and I'll be looking at a new set.
#40's sails are not even a good backup set however and will disappear. I do
want to have another backup set for training or gear buster days. I would
like to inquire if there is someone willing to sell a backup main
and jib....perhaps one of the new North Sails owners. I think I
already have my hooks on a spinnaker, although I've not tried it yet.
Thomas Brown
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 17:39:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: FRANK or CJ <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
Subject: [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
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The recent Sonar Regatta at Lake Geneva was a good experience for most all
of the 22 of us that went down there this year. It was great to see that
WYC sailors could compete successfully on someone elses "private" lake.
There were many exciting events that occurred for us - several on the race
course, and a few on the parking lot !!
As you all know, while we were sailing at Lake Geneva, Steve Shepstone was
sailing in the English Channel and winning the Sonar World's ! Several of
you know him. Those of you that were in the Sonar Fleet #5 a few years back
will recall we had Steve and Melissa Shepstone with us for a weekend
"seminar" of Sonar sailing tips, both on the water and in the clubhouse.
Plus of course the added social activities in the evenings.
We had some brief discussion this past weekend of doing a similar event near
the beginning of next year's sailing season. CJ and I were involved with in
some of the organization and implementation of this the last time. We're now
in Arizona for the winter -will only be back in Minnesota or a few holiday
vacation days bewteen now & May 1st.- so won't be of much help
So ......... 1) Are there again some people back there in the Sonar Fleet
willing to help work on such a sailing seminar?? 2) Survey the fleet for
interest? 3) Contact the Shepstones? with (Congratulations to Steve) about
their willingness to do it again? (The last time it was for the price of an
airline ticket for Melissa, food and lodging in someone's home , and a
little hospitality). If anyone want to do this, I think it would be a good
activity in which the entire fleet can benefit - it would be enjoyable as
well as instructive for all.
If anyone wants any more info or help or suggestions from what we learned
last time, please get back to me. Hopefully, some of you will pick this up
and run with it.
Frank
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:50:08 -0500
From: Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com
Subject: Re: [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
To: FRANK or CJ <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
Cc: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org, sonar at lists.wyc.org
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I would be glad to help facilitate that and would pitch in on an air
ticket. We're probably too far away from the lake to reasonably put
them up, but would be willing to do so.
Tally Ho! needs all the help it can get!
Another subject as long as I've disturbed the email peace:
There has been some discussion about the Siedelman hulls being heavier as
evidenced by water that comes in from the bailers (when they leak) and
keeps the floor of the cockpit wet when the crew is aboard. This does
not happen on the Ontario boats as evidenced by #464. One reason that
this does not happen however is that 464's cockpit floor is 1.25 inches
shallower than the Siedelman cockpit and the bailer sump is also 1.25 inches
deeper(from the cockpit floor). When measuring the water level
from the bottom of the bailer with the bailer open, I was not able to
tell the difference in the level between the Siedelman and Ontario boat
measured.
In other words, the difference in weight (there probably is some) is
not ascertainable by the water in the bottom of the cockpit on the
Sidelman boats. The apparent difference is due to a design difference
in the boat itself.
It would be very interesting to be able to weigh a boat from the crane in
the future.
Thomas Brown
"Maximizing Business by Minimizing Surprises"
FRANK or CJ <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
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10/05/2005 07:39 PM
To
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cc
Subject
[Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
The recent Sonar Regatta at Lake Geneva was a good experience for most
all of the 22 of us that went down there this year. It was great to see
that WYC sailors could compete successfully on someone elses "private"
lake. There were many exciting events that occurred for us - several on
the race course, and a few on the parking lot !!
As you all know, while we were sailing at Lake Geneva, Steve Shepstone was
sailing in the English Channel and winning the Sonar World's ! Several of
you know him. Those of you that were in the Sonar Fleet #5 a few years
back will recall we had Steve and Melissa Shepstone with us for a weekend
"seminar" of Sonar sailing tips, both on the water and in the clubhouse.
Plus of course the added social activities in the evenings.
We had some brief discussion this past weekend of doing a similar event
near the beginning of next year's sailing season. CJ and I were involved
with in some of the organization and implementation of this the last time.
We're now in Arizona for the winter -will only be back in Minnesota or a
few holiday vacation days bewteen now & May 1st.- so won't be of much help
So ......... 1) Are there again some people back there in the Sonar Fleet
willing to help work on such a sailing seminar?? 2) Survey the fleet for
interest? 3) Contact the Shepstones? with (Congratulations to Steve)
about their willingness to do it again? (The last time it was for the
price of an airline ticket for Melissa, food and lodging in someone's home
, and a little hospitality). If anyone want to do this, I think it would
be a good activity in which the entire fleet can benefit - it would be
enjoyable as well as instructive for all.
If anyone wants any more info or help or suggestions from what we learned
last time, please get back to me. Hopefully, some of you will pick this
up and run with it.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:02:55 -0500
From: "John Sligh" <jsligh at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
To: "Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com" <Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com>,
"FRANK or CJ" <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
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Tom,
When our (464) bailers are closed water does leak through and fill the
cockpit. So if I want a dry boat I need to open the bailers to drain water
out. I don't think its a Sidelman vs. Ontario issue with the bailers.
It's a Sonar bailer issue that causes the leakage. Ernie has a recommended
fix on how to make sure the bailers don't leak. Perhaps he can respond to
this email and advise on how to fix so that in the spring we can all have
dry cockpits.
John
> [Original Message]
> From: <Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com>
> To: FRANK or CJ <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
> Cc: <sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org>; <sonar at lists.wyc.org>
> Date: 10/6/2005 8:50:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
>
>
> I would be glad to help facilitate that and would pitch in on an air
> ticket. We're probably too far away from the lake to reasonably put
> them up, but would be willing to do so.
>
> Tally Ho! needs all the help it can get!
>
> Another subject as long as I've disturbed the email peace:
>
> There has been some discussion about the Siedelman hulls being heavier as
> evidenced by water that comes in from the bailers (when they leak) and
> keeps the floor of the cockpit wet when the crew is aboard. This does
> not happen on the Ontario boats as evidenced by #464. One reason that
> this does not happen however is that 464's cockpit floor is 1.25 inches
> shallower than the Siedelman cockpit and the bailer sump is also 1.25
> inches deeper(from the cockpit floor). When measuring the water level
> from the bottom of the bailer with the bailer open, I was not able to
> tell the difference in the level between the Siedelman and Ontario boat
> measured.
>
> In other words, the difference in weight (there probably is some) is
> not ascertainable by the water in the bottom of the cockpit on the
> Sidelman boats. The apparent difference is due to a design difference
> in the boat itself.
>
> It would be very interesting to be able to weigh a boat from the crane in
> the future.
>
>
> Thomas Brown
> "Maximizing Business by Minimizing Surprises"
>
>
>
> FRANK or CJ <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
> Sent by: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org
> 10/05/2005 07:39 PM
>
> To
> sonar at lists.wyc.org
> cc
>
> Subject
> [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The recent Sonar Regatta at Lake Geneva was a good experience for most
> all of the 22 of us that went down there this year. It was great to see
> that WYC sailors could compete successfully on someone elses "private"
> lake. There were many exciting events that occurred for us - several on
> the race course, and a few on the parking lot !!
>
> As you all know, while we were sailing at Lake Geneva, Steve Shepstone
was
> sailing in the English Channel and winning the Sonar World's ! Several
of
> you know him. Those of you that were in the Sonar Fleet #5 a few years
> back will recall we had Steve and Melissa Shepstone with us for a weekend
> "seminar" of Sonar sailing tips, both on the water and in the clubhouse.
> Plus of course the added social activities in the evenings.
>
> We had some brief discussion this past weekend of doing a similar event
> near the beginning of next year's sailing season. CJ and I were involved
> with in some of the organization and implementation of this the last
time.
> We're now in Arizona for the winter -will only be back in Minnesota or a
> few holiday vacation days bewteen now & May 1st.- so won't be of much help
>
> So ......... 1) Are there again some people back there in the Sonar Fleet
> willing to help work on such a sailing seminar?? 2) Survey the fleet for
> interest? 3) Contact the Shepstones? with (Congratulations to Steve)
> about their willingness to do it again? (The last time it was for the
> price of an airline ticket for Melissa, food and lodging in someone's
home
> , and a little hospitality). If anyone want to do this, I think it would
> be a good activity in which the entire fleet can benefit - it would be
> enjoyable as well as instructive for all.
>
> If anyone wants any more info or help or suggestions from what we learned
> last time, please get back to me. Hopefully, some of you will pick this
> up and run with it.
>
> Frank_______________________________________________
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