[Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"

Thu Oct 6 19:11:58 CDT 2005

1) I would like to weigh my boat at take out this fall after the 
frostbite if it is not too much trouble.  I have a lifting strap and guy 
wires, but I don't know how to use them.  Also what does one leave on 
the boat and what gets taken off?

2) I made a few bailer seals out of a mouse pad.  I think there are one 
or two more in my toolbox if anyone wants to see.  Water still weeps in 
slowly, so they must not seal as well as the ones that Jim sells (he did 
not have any on the day I was buying).  In my boat, the water only comes 
in until there is a cup or two in the bailer wells.  It does not seem to 
run around on the cockpit floor, so I am satisfied with my solution.  I 
only open the bailers after the boat takes water over the side.

Mark

Ernest Brody wrote:

>1) If we want to weigh boats I think we still have the old MORC scale in
>store room.  It would be simple to hang it on the crane.  It weighs to +/-
>50 lb and we can estimate to 25.  It'll give us a good idea.
>
>2) On the bailer subject.  I replace my bailer seals religiously (blessings
>and all) and have no leakage.  The seals are expensive.  Jim Johnson at
>Seven Seas carries them.  However, the one guy in the country who makes the
>seals may be giving up the business and Jim was thinking of buying the
>equipment.  I'll find out what the status is.  I also like the idea (I think
>it was Chuck or Mark) of cutting them out of mouse pad.  I know the
>techniques of gluing them in.
>
>3) Let's see if we can get Shepstone again.
>
>4) Congratulations to John and Marty and their crews.
>
>Ernest
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org]On
>Behalf Of Henry Brantingham
>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:23 PM
>To: Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com; 'FRANK or CJ'
>Cc: sonar at lists.wyc.org; sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org
>Subject: RE: [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
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>Tom:
>
>We did weigh the boats a few of years ago, I think when the Great Lakes were
>held here -- and I do remember that my old boat (24) was a bit on the porky
>side, and I know for sure that the sole of the cockpit is usually awash with
>a full complement of crew.
>
>HB
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org] On
>Behalf Of Thomas_M_Brown at bluecrossmn.com
>Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:50 AM
>To: FRANK or CJ
>Cc: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org; sonar at lists.wyc.org
>Subject: Re: [Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
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>I would be glad to help facilitate that and would pitch in on an air
>ticket.      We're probably too far away from the lake to reasonably put
>them up,  but would be willing to do so.
>
>Tally Ho! needs all the help it can get!
>
>Another subject as long as I've disturbed the email peace:
>
>There has been some discussion about the Siedelman hulls being heavier as
>evidenced by water that comes in from the bailers (when they leak) and
>keeps the floor of the cockpit wet when the crew is aboard.     This does
>not happen on the Ontario boats as evidenced by #464.     One reason that
>this does not happen however is that 464's cockpit floor is 1.25 inches
>shallower than the Siedelman cockpit and the bailer sump is also 1.25
>inches deeper(from the cockpit floor).  When measuring the water level
>from the bottom of the bailer with the bailer open,   I was not able to
>tell the difference in the level between the Siedelman and Ontario boat
>measured.
>
>In other words,   the difference in weight  (there probably is some) is
>not ascertainable by the water in the bottom of the cockpit on the
>Sidelman boats.    The apparent difference is due to a design difference
>in the boat itself.
>
>It would be very interesting to be able to weigh a boat from the crane in
>the future.
>
>
>Thomas Brown
>"Maximizing Business by Minimizing Surprises"
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>FRANK or CJ <rainaldi at prodigy.net>
>Sent by: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org
>10/05/2005 07:39 PM
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>To
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>[Sonar] 2006 Sailing "Seminar"
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>The recent Sonar Regatta at Lake Geneva  was a good experience for most
>all of the 22 of us that went down there this year.  It was great to see
>that WYC sailors could compete successfully on someone elses "private"
>lake. There were many exciting events that occurred for us - several on
>the race course, and a few on the parking lot !!
>
>As you all know, while we were sailing at Lake Geneva, Steve Shepstone was
>sailing in the English Channel and winning the Sonar World's !  Several of
>you know him. Those of you that were in the Sonar Fleet #5 a few years
>back will recall we had Steve and Melissa Shepstone with us for a weekend
>"seminar" of Sonar sailing tips, both on the water and in the clubhouse.
>Plus of course the added social activities in the evenings.
>
>We had some brief discussion this past weekend of doing a similar event
>near the beginning of next year's sailing season.  CJ and I were involved
>with in some of the organization and implementation of this the last time.
>We're now in Arizona for the winter -will only be back in Minnesota or a
>few holiday vacation days bewteen now & May 1st.- so won't be of much help
>
>So ......... 1) Are there again some people back there in the Sonar Fleet
>willing to help work on such a sailing seminar?? 2) Survey the fleet for
>interest?  3) Contact the Shepstones? with  (Congratulations to Steve)
>about their willingness to do it again?  (The last time it was for the
>price of an airline ticket for Melissa, food and lodging in someone's home
>, and a little hospitality).  If anyone want to do this, I think it would
>be a good activity in which the entire fleet can benefit  - it would be
>enjoyable as well as instructive for all.
>
>If anyone wants any more info or help or suggestions from what we learned
>last time, please get back to me.  Hopefully, some of you will pick this
>up and run with it.
>
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