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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=669401018-20022007>A very strong and easy to untie knot suitable to the
application being discussed is the double figure eight. There are two ways
to tie it, one with the loop free, the other with the loop through an
object.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=669401018-20022007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=669401018-20022007>The easiest way is tying it free, Fold the line over on
it's self about 6 - 12 inches from the end. With both parts tie a standard
figure eight stopper knot leaving a loop on the end.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=669401018-20022007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=669401018-20022007>When tying it through something tie a single figure
eight knot 6-12 inches up from the end. Lead the line through the object
then retrace the first figure eight with the bitter end so it looks like the
knot tied above.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=669401018-20022007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=669401018-20022007>As with all knots it is vitally important to smooth and
snug up the knot before use.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=669401018-20022007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=669401018-20022007>To untie, "Break the knots back" by pushing on curving
parts of the knot, alternating from one end to the other.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=669401018-20022007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=669401018-20022007>See <A
href="http://www.realknots.com/knots/sloops.htm">http://www.realknots.com/knots/sloops.htm</A>
for pictures. (googled double figure eight knot)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial color=#000080>Barth Reding</FONT></SPAN>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org
[mailto:sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark
Kochendorfer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Henry Brantingham<BR><B>Cc:</B> sonar@lists.wyc.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Sonar] Split Traveller<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>You can switch to 3:1 in light air by just disconnecting the end of the
sheet from the block and then putting a stopper knot in it. In heavier air
you need a lot of strength or else put the end back for more leverage. </DIV>
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<DIV>Kevlar works fine. I used Amsteel. Perhaps it will get frayed
after 4-5 seasons. Not that easy to adjust with a knot since it does not
knot that well and it the knot tends to become permanent after a while.
Its pretty cheap for the small amount required. </DIV>
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<DIV>While in Geneva, I saw some pretty nice setups for the cleating of the
traveler (split or not). The one that I liked the best was a 3inch piece
of aluminum angle with the cleat on it for cleating from the opposite rail and a
second cleat on the cockpit side for same side cleating. </DIV>
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<DIV>Let me know if you need a photo.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mark<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 2/19/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Henry
Brantingham</B> <<A
href="mailto:hbrantingham@isp.com">hbrantingham@isp.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sailors: </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm planning to install a split
traveler system on Balderdash! this spring. I have the article that
Shepstone distributed during his last visit, so I think I pretty much know how
to proceed, but I have a couple of questions that I though maybe you who have
sailed with it already may be able to comment on: </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The article recommends cutting
back to a 3:1 main sheet. Is this a good idea? Do any of you
have that now? </SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wire vs Kevlar: Seems
Kevlar would be easy, but I'm not sure I trust it. The article
recommends it because you can adjust the length. Any comments?
</SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any other details I haven't
thought to ask about? </SPAN></FONT></LI></OL>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks in advance for your
comments. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Henry
Brantingham</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(612) 867-3941</SPAN></FONT></P>
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