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<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: null" mce_style="FONT-FAMILY: null">Being courteous and respectful to the unwieldy larger boats is always important. I have seen sailboats tack in-front of these boats causing sudden alterations of course for the powerboats, which is wrong on the part of the sailor.</SPAN></div>
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<div></SPAN>Just don't also let large powerboats use ignorance of the rules as a method to obtain right-away. </div></P>
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<div>We simplify Berts guidelines further by saying "there's right-away, and then there's dead right away". </div>
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<DIV id=wmQuoteWrapper>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Right Of Way<BR>From: "Bert Foster" <<a href="mailto:bert@apexq.com">bert@apexq.com</a>><BR>Date: Mon, May 02, 2011 2:37 pm<BR>To: "'dallas johnson'" <<a href="mailto:dallas@dallasjohnson.net">dallas@dallasjohnson.net</a>><BR>Cc: <<a href="mailto:sonar@lists.wyc.org">sonar@lists.wyc.org</a>>, "'Terry Foster'"<BR><<a href="mailto:terry@fostercomputerconsulting.com">terry@fostercomputerconsulting.com</a>>, "WYC Fleet Captains Server"<BR><<a href="mailto:fleets@lists.wyc.org">fleets@lists.wyc.org</a>><BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=812121319-02052011>Note in the pecking order below that sailboats must give way to power boats they are overtaking, boats resticted in there ability to maneuver, fishing boat trolling and boats constrainde by draft. The 28 large commercial charter boats often fall into the 1-3-4 class, and sailboats must give way. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN style="COLOR: #339966; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Vessels restricted in their ability to maneuver</SPAN><FONT color=#000000> - Means a vessel that can't maneuver as required <BR>by the rules because of the size or operation of the vessel</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><STRONG><SPAN class=subhead2>The Pecking Order</SPAN> </STRONG><SPAN class=maintext><BR><BR>There is a "pecking order" that can be used as a simplified memory aid to determine right of way for vessels <BR>of different types. Get very familiar with this list, as it is important to understand it thoroughly. The lower most <BR>vessel on the list is the give way vessel, and must stay out of the way of vessels that are higher on the list: </SPAN><SPAN class=812121319-02052011><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <a href="mailto:sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org">sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org</a> [<a href="mailto:sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org">mailto:sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org</a>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>dallas johnson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:01 PM<BR><B>Cc:</B> <a href="mailto:sonar@lists.wyc.org">sonar@lists.wyc.org</a><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Sonar] Fleet cpt. mtg. highlights<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Whoever said comercial charter boats on Minnetonka have rightaway over sailing vessels was wrong by any interpretation of the regs. </DIV>
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<DIV>To say or encourage otherwise is simply dangerous.</DIV>
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<DIV>I have words to describe mtka charterboat captains who say otherwise, but I shall not use them in this forum.<BR><BR>Sent via mobile</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Apr 30, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Martin Fossen <<A href="mailto:martyfossen@yahoo.com" target=_blank>martyfossen@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Hello Sonar Fleet 5,<BR><BR>This last Wednesday we had a meeting of all the Fleet captains at the club. Here are just a few things I thought I should share with you all:<BR><BR>A few fleet captain duties: getting any scoring mistakes corrected<BR> liaison in inter-fleet disputes<BR> liaison to race management<BR> liaison to club management and officers<BR><BR>Club policy notes: <BR><BR>1a) There is a PUD in the works with the city (I forget what PUD stands for but I think its about how the land is zoned) If I understand correctly, getting the PUD will enhance the value of the club property. This value is particularly important regarding the East parking area since some of that property will eventually be taken by the state when the intersection of 101 and McGinty is redone. To get the PUD through, the club needs to be a "good neighbor". To be a good neighbor, NO PARKING IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. If lots are full, use public lots in the business area. Please relay this to all your crew. Also, quiet after 10:00 pm.<BR><BR>1b) No WYC parking at the Sailing Center. Their permit doesn't allow it.<BR><BR>2) The race committee boats have room for 3 guests each race. If anyone is interested, ideally they would let Blake know ahead of time, but can also ask last minute. If you happen to overbook your crew, this might be an option to get that extra person out on the lake. I hear that people find that experience interesting and educational.<BR><BR>3) Crew must join (get a crew membership) after 3-6 visits or regular ride.<BR><BR>4) Commercial lake traffic has right of way. This is important when we're heading out for Thursday night racing at about the time a number of charter boats are rushing to Wayzata for a 6:00 pick-up.<BR><BR>5) If you get scored "not in database" at the beginning of the season, it's because dues weren't paid. A non-paid boat could also have trouble getting paid for damage should there be a collision since they also have no rights to protest since they have no right to race.<BR><BR><BR>There was more, of course, but I don't think I need to write about all the details. Call me or write to me if you have questions or concerns. <BR><BR>Marty Fossen<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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