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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looks like a very big long meeting. Maybe some of this can be handled by emailds.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bert<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org [mailto:sonar-bounces@lists.wyc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Fossen<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> sonar@lists.wyc.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Sonar] Sonar Fleet Meeting Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Hello Fleet 5<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Here's an attempt to organize the business and discussion for the meeting on Saturday, 8:00 sharp, Kvale's. Hopefully this agenda helps you all get through it all efficiently. Good Luck! As you may recall, I can't be there. I'm sure many will share their ideas but, in particular, I invite those of you who have joined the fleet in recent years to share your perspective, please! Various people are mentioned below next to topics. If you're not able to be there to lead that area of discussion, please delegate as best you can. Thanks, MF<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Tom K,. in past years it was nice when the meeting location could be separate from the socializing location. Might you have some separate space in the basement or garage that could be used for the meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>OLD or RECURRING BUSINESS:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Fleet Officer Slate - I believe we're entering the second season of our two-season terms, correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Fleet Cpt. - Marty Fossen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Fleet Treasurer - Sarah Olmstead<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Fleet Secretary - Howard Noreen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Any impeachments? resignations? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> As for myself, I'm willing to continue if you all allow it, but if someone else is wanted and wants to do it, I can be flexible.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.0pt;background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Somebody talked </span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>about</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> “fleet BY-Laws”. I met With Randy Gould, J-24 Fleet Captain who has researched Fleet By-laws. We can discuss</span></b><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Lonar Date? Traditionally it's been in place of Big Island 3. The effect to the BI series scoring<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Must be in fleet special rules with the Sis for that race<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Star of the North Regatta, and it's effect on C series scoring<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Must be in fleet special rules</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Should we continue the idea of awarding average points to a boat when they miss a WYC race when attending an out-of-town Sonar event?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Must be in fleet special rules</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Bert and Ernest, could you explain how we get the scoring changes made official with WYC's system?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Sonar Sunday Snacks - when to expect to see a schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Running with the theme, a suggestion was offered to add a Thursday treats. Discussion?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Hosting B-Series party (volunteers to organize?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Any other old business, unresolved issues from last season?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><b><span style='color:red'>Support SON? How?</span></b><b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>How to run Tean Racing Regatta<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Team Race Practises?</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>FLEET 5 TREASURY<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Treasurer's report (Sarah)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Fleet member dues - Historically $20/boat/season. Same this year?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Discussion on usage of fleet money, discussion of process/rules about money usage<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> historically money outlays for B-series party only, other Sonar events have been self supporting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> By the way, we now have a WYC Sonar Fleet 5 checking account<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Is it a Flagship? Do we have a PAY Pay?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>NEW BUSINESS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Zebra mussels, their effect on our boats, outboards, moorings, slips, other facilities<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Boat lift option, historically Sonars wet-sailed but if lifts are desired to aid with Zebra mussel issue, is that okay with everybody?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> </span><b><span style='color:red'>This is an issue the WYC BOD needs to discuss. There are slip width problems, depth, and blocking people on the lawn’s view.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> Other New Business<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Are their old Fleet 5 bylaws available for review? How about minutes on past meetings and decisions? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>If so, perhaps they could be added to our Sonar fleet page within WYC.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>We can have all of this on the Fleet 5 web page at the WYC.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='color:red'> We need to discuss with Bert, RC Chair, how we like the Trap course with us always. The S2s have talked to me about not liking the left course because they don’t like the reach and don’t like <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>INFORMATIONAL<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>WYC business that effects Sonar Fleet 5 (Bert? Ernest?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='color:red'>Bert will review the process with the City</span></b><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Post-race debriefs (JR, can you brief on debriefs?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Sonars for Charter (Ernest)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Bert discussed this with the Commodore and he is in favor of the WYC subsidizing the series rental option and discussed subsidizing fleet coaching<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Adaptive sailing (Ernest)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Fleet participation compared to other fleets (Ernest)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Our Team Racing Program in Sonars (Hans)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Star of the North Regatta (Carmella?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Fleet communication media, Sonar.list, facebook page, fleet page in WYC.org (Hans?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Other Informational, gripes, praises, trashtalk . . . (anybody?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>11 minute video on WCSC (Howard)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>(Is that all?)(motion to adjourn?)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>