[Capri25] Fleet Captains Meeting

[Pete Willenbring]

I also think this is a nice change....question will be how often are we
going to use the Trap course.....every week, only on Thursdays..etc...I
know the race committee is reluctant to set up the parallel courses when
winds are shifty....and then we will be directly behind the
ensigns...which is not good for either fleet. 

 

Pete

 

 

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From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org
[mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org] On Behalf Of Dutch Bull
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:06 PM
To: Kai Kroll; capri25 at lists.wyc.org
Subject: RE: [Capri25] Fleet Captains Meeting

 

Kai,

 

I believe the new start sequence would be a real benefit to the Capri
fleet and should greatly reduce the interaction between our fleet and
other fleet on the course. I would strong support it.

 

Dutch Bull 
Northern Iron & Machine 
Ph 651-778-3338 
Fx 651-771-1292 
Cell 763-300-9562 
Dbull at northernim.com 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org
[mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org]On Behalf Of Kai Kroll
	Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:51 AM
	To: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
	Subject: [Capri25] Fleet Captains Meeting 

	Capri-25ers:

	 

	The fleet captain meeting is this Friday night.  The agenda and
proposed new starting sequence are in the emails below:

	 

	I would appreciate feedback on the proposed starting sequence
and other agenda items so that I am able to properly represent the fleet
at the meeting.

	 

	Thanks,

	 

	Kai

	 

	
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	From: fleets-bounces at lists.wyc.org
[mailto:fleets-bounces at lists.wyc.org] On Behalf Of Bert Foster
	Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:19 PM
	To: WYC Fleet Captains; Mary Beth Hovey; Fred Somme; Jarod
Silverman; Blake Middleton
	Subject: [Fleets] Fleet Captains Meeting Friday Starting Order
Discussion @ Bert's House 7:00pm

	 

	Hi All,
	We are trying to make it lest congested by using the Trapezoid
courses and maybe changing the order of the start and the courses, left
or right, fleets sail.
	
	The plan below came up last night in a discussion I had with
assistant RC Chairman, Terry Foster.  See what you think.
	
	Starting Order           Left Course     Right Course
	1)      S2 7.9                             X
	2)      J-24                                X
	3)      J-22                                X
	4)      Sonar                              X
	5)      Capri-25                                             X
	6)      PHRF I & Ensign                              X
	7)      MORC II & III                                 X
	8)      PHRF I, II, III                                   X
	
	The plan here is: 

	*	 to start the fleets generally in the order of upwind
speed so a later starting fleet doesn't catch an earlier starting fleet
at the 1st windward mark, as has been happening in some cases now. 
	*	sail most of the one-design fleets that are rigged
pretty much the same (fractional rig, big jibs in front and small jibs
in back) on the left hand course. They will not have a tendency to catch
each other and the fastest S2 7.9 may not lap into the Sonars as they
have to make up 2 full legs and have a 9 minute head start. 
	*	these fleets are generally less strung out than the
others.  Therefore, if we start them with the fastest boats first, they
won't be running over one another. 
	*	moving the Ensign after the Capri-25 means the Capri-25s
won't have the problem running over them on the first beat, particularly
at the WW mark, as was a problem for the J-22s.  Note the Ensigns do not
come out for Sunday, only Thursday.  Moving the Ensigns to star with
PHRF I  means 2 small fleets and the PHRF Is can mostly sail away from
the Ensigns right off the start (as the Sonars have been doing) and the
Ensign won't be run over by the smaller MORC boats as they were by the
J-22s. 
	*	By having the Capri-25s start in this new slot they
won't be run over by the S2 7.9s and they probably won't be running over
many Sonars on the first beat. 
	*	By having the Capri-25s start first of the right course
boats, they will have clear sailing for at least their first 2 legs,
maybe more.  By the time they start to mix it up with the other right
course boats, they will be well strung out.  As they do mix it up with
the handicap boats they should be able to quickly sail through them.
Some of the handicaps boats will also be on a triangle course out of
their way. 

	Regards,
	Bert
	
	
	Hi All,
	Enough of you responded that Friday is the best time.  If you
can't make it, send someone who is experienced in your fleet as your
representative.  One one person per fleet plus the RC of Bert, Blake,
Jared, and Fred.
	
	I will provide beverages.  MB, maybe bring a bottle of wine you
like.  I have some but you may not like it, as I don't know wine.
	
	Meeting Agenda 

	*	Fleet Captains Duties 
	*	Possible Starting Order Change 
	*	Each Fleets Desired Courses and length.  Come prepared. 
	*	Protests, out of fleet courtesy, and "CROSS OR TACK" 
	*	Anything else anybody wants to bring up 

	Regards,
	Bert 

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