[Capri25] MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

Dan McNamara mcnamara at visi.com
Fri Jan 2 06:38:04 UTC 2009


Glenn,

Great!  I will start putting the pressure on the fleet and hope to  
have some options soon.  Are your sails hanked or Foil?  From your  
pictures you are better then the back of our fleet who stow the motor  
on the stern rail and leave the swim ladder down...

Dan

On Jan 2, 2009, at 12:25 AM, Glenn Selvin wrote:

Oh, and just so you know what you're up against?  I've attached two  
pictures of the Suicidal Bird!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan McNamara
To: Glenn Selvin
Cc: Bert Foster ; capri25 at lists.wyc.org ; Carmella Foster
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Capri25] MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

This is a more detailed response to Glenn's email.  But I am writing  
this for any Capri 25 sailor that would like to come and race this  
regatta (September 18-20, 2009).  Also if you are ever in the Twin  
Cites area when the water is not hard, I will get you on a boat.

Options for racing a Capri 25 in the Star of the North Regatta:

The boats that do not do our one design fall regatta (Star of the  
North) tend to be at the back of the pack for our club races or their  
crew do not think that 9 races in 3 days is worth a day off of work or  
the grief they will get at home.

For the Capri Fleet, the event is open to any non-professional sailor  
(Dutch, I looked on the web site but did not find the details).

If you would like to Crew on a local boat, I am sure that I can find  
you a ride.

If you would like to Drive a local boat I know of three boat owners  
that would rather crew and call tactics then drive.

If you would like to Skipper a local boat I know of three boats where  
the owner does not want to do the Regatta but one or two of their  
regular crew does.  The end result would be a mix of your crew and the  
regular crew from the boat (most WYC Capri's sail with 5 Crew so the  
155 can be used in white caps, some with 6).  The advantage is that  
there would be some local knowledge on the boat.

If you would like to charter a boat I am sure there will be Capri 25's  
available.  But there are a few obstacles:

1.  Insurance for the boat (not the liability),  there are many  
options here and I am far from an expert (if other have suggestions,  
please give them) but this was the toughest hurdle for me when I  
borrowed a boat for a regatta.  If you own a boat you may be able to  
add borrowed boat insurance or the owner of the boat could add you to  
their policy.  I am sure there are other option but it took me 4 weeks  
to work it out so get this handled first.

2.  Sails,  our fleet has a one new sail a year limit for WYC boats  
(designed to keep the cost of racing down) so all boats are protective  
of their good sails especially the 155.  So finding a boat to charter  
where you bring some of your own sails will be far easier.  Also your  
sail are likely to be in better shape.  On Consensus we finished 2nd  
in the 2008 regatta using a 6 year old 155.

3.  Even though for the past few years we have only had around 20  
Capri 25's race in the regatta most of our 30 plus boats intend on  
doing it at the beginning of the season.   As Fall rolls around life  
happens and boats drop out.  2008 there were at least 6 boats that  
were intending on doing the regatta two weeks before that did not.  So  
It will be hard to know what boats are available in enough time to  
make it happen.

4.  It is not to say that a charter is undoable but right now it is  
clear as mud.  Knowing that there is a team or teams wanting to  
charter a WYC Capri for the event is a good way to get some of the  
fence sitters to make an earlier decision.  And hopefully if they  
decide not to race and are willing to lend their boat, there is enough  
time to make the other details happen.

Some time in the next 2 months the WYC Capri fleet will have its  
winter meeting.  If you email me more detail on how you would like to  
participate I will get you on our agenda.

Wayzata Yacht Club has a written Policy for welcoming Guests (anyone  
who would like to race with us).  Out of town racers tend to get  
special treatment, there are a few reasons for this:

1.  WYC members are proud of our club and like to show it off,  
hopefully getting positive feedback from an outside perspective.
2.  WYC is a club where sailing knowledge is freely shared, most  
believe that helping their competition become a better sailor  
ultimately makes themselves a better sailor.  Having an out of town  
guest share their experience and abilities increase the knowledge base  
for the club.
3.  The WYC Capri 25 fleet is a bit inbred.  Only a few WYC Capri 25's  
put their boat's on a trailer to go race other venues or events.  The  
main reason is that they will race handicapped against a smaller  
fleet, why haul your boat when the racing is better in your back  
yard.  Another is most WYC Capri owners are cheep...  Relative to  
other one design fleets at WYC, few Capri sailors race other venues.   
If they do, they do it on other boats like Sonar's, S2 7.9's, J24's,  
J22's, scows or one of the 40-50 footers at our Apostle Island Station  
on Lake Superior.  We are hungry for the perspectives that visitors  
bring us.

In summary, if you would like to come race with us you are always  
welcome.  If you would like to come race the Star of the North Regatta  
we will do our best to make that happen. The more info on what you  
would like, the better.  Something like:

I have been racing my Capri for 3 years in the Bay Area.   2 of my  
crew and myself would like to come to the Star of the North Regatta  
and crew for a WYC boat,  We can do any job needed but are best at...

Or

My hole crew and me would like to Charter a boat for the event.  We  
will bring our own sails and need a tuff luff forestay.  We used to  
race against Mark Weum when he had his Capri on Lake Dillon and look  
forward to beating him again.

Or

It would be great to Charter a boat for the Star of the North Regatta,  
if one is available I can bring my whole crew.  If not it will be just  
my fore decker and me.  I would like the to drive in a 20 boat start  
and have my foredecker have the experience of a 9 boat overlapped  
pinwheel at the first leeward mark...

Of course  it would be great if you brought your own boat.  In 2004 we  
had 36 Capri 25's at the regatta.  The boat that won it came from New  
York.  They hauled their boat here just for the Regatta and hauled it  
back with the 1st place trophy having never won a race (consistently  
low numbers wins regatta's).  Good thing the trophies are keepers.

I hope this helps anyone considering coming to the event.  Feel free  
to Email me.  I expect others in the fleet will add to this...

Hope to see you at WYC,

Dan McNamara






On Jan 1, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Dan McNamara wrote:

Glenn,

There are about 9 local boats that for different reasons choose not to  
do the Regatta.  I am sure we can a find a boat that will be a good  
fit especially if your bring your Main, Genoa and Spinner.  I will  
send another email shortly with the options as I see them.

I hope that you and others will join us.

Dan McNamara


On Jan 1, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Glenn Selvin wrote:

We'll accept that challenge...  are there any charter boats available,  
so as to save us the time of trailering 2000 miles from Los Angeles?   
If you can line us up a charter boat, than Team Suicidal Bird is there!
----- Original Message -----
From: Carmella Foster
To: 'Glenn Selvin' ; 'Eric Roubal' ; 'Geoffrey t Vandenheuvel'
Cc: capri25 at lists.wyc.org ; 'Bert Foster' ; 'Terry Foster'
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Capri25] Backstay question -- MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

We choose to live here!  We race at the best yacht club (Wayzata Yacht  
Club) on the best lake (Lake Minnetonka) with excellent race  
management and the best parties after EVERY race, 70+ races crammed  
into a short season (May to October).

I challenge all non-WYC Capri owners to hit the highway with your rig  
and come to the Star of the North Regatta at the WYC, September 18-20,  
2009.  We offer 9 races in 3 days, 20+ Capris on the starting line,  
great food, lots of rum, RED MOUNT GAY CAPS, music, a crane, a slip,  
free housing in private homes if requested, and a warm-up Thursday  
night club race (with our local fleet of 32 Capris) followed by a  
famous WYC Thursday night after-race party.

You've heard about it!  Come experience it!

Carmella Foster, Chair
2009 Star of the North Regatta
Wayzata Yacht Club
Home Phone:  952-473-2240


From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org 
] On Behalf Of Glenn Selvin
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:04 PM
To: Eric Roubal; Geoffrey t Vandenheuvel
Cc: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
Subject: Re: [Capri25] Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC  
Capri25FleetRules

Question is, when its butt freezing cold, why would I want to?
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Roubal
To: Geoffrey t Vandenheuvel ; ghselvin at ix.netcom.com
Cc: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Capri25] Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC  
Capri25FleetRule s

Yes, but can you carry a 6pack and a folding chair and walk over a  
lake, plop down, and fish through a hole?   J
From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org 
] On Behalf Of Geoffrey t Vandenheuvel
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:14 PM
To: ghselvin at ix.netcom.com
Cc: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
Subject: Re: [Capri25] Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC  
Capri25FleetRule s
Gleen,
That's why everybody hates us Californians :)
GVH Skipper - Whooosh  Capri 25 located in warm and beautiful at  
Alamitos Bay - Long Beach, CA
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:24:15 -0800 "Glenn Selvin" <ghselvin at ix.netcom.com 
 > writes:
Y'all keep talking about ice and snow.  I'm sorry, but I'm looking out  
my window.  I'm not seeing it!  70 degrees today, nice and warm and  
sunny!  Was racing last weekend, and am racing my Capri in two weeks.
Gotta love it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Odell Tuttle
To: Andy Spence-Parsons
Cc: capri25 at lists.wyc.org ; kenreiff at gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Capri25] Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC Capri  
25FleetRule s
I agree.  Its great to see everyone talking about backstays while the  
water is below two feet of ice.

Happy Holidays!


On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Andy Spence-Parsons <andy.spence-parsons at comcast.net 
 > wrote:
Good on'ya Billy!  Happy New Year to one-and-all!


-----Original Message-----
From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org 
] On Behalf Of wglaughlin1 at juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:29 PM
To: mcnamara at visi.com
Cc: capri25 at lists.wyc.org; kenreiff at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Capri25] Backstay question -- Reminder on WYC Capri 25  
FleetRule s


Happy Holidays and an exceptional New Year to all

My thoughts are: Here we are in the tundra cold air and snow on the  
ground and A whole bunch of sailors are talking back stay.  AIN'T IT  
GREAT!

My best to all, one design or handicap.  The Capri 25 (includes those  
who sail on one)is one of the best bang for the buck you can find.


Happy sails to you

Bill

Magic 259


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