[Capri25] Capri's and Zebras.

[Doug Dickerson]

I drilled three holes in the bottom of Fly By Night's next to the keel. ala
Red Shift.   Almost 4 gallons of water came out.  The water is trapped
between the core layers. all though from the top hull it's dry as a bone.
This liquid stained my pole barn concrete floor all the way to the drain 35
feet.  Greg, I wish it was spilled beer.  I think somebody tipped over the
bucket.   

 

I recommend everyone to drill holes in the bottom of the hull in the fall to
dry out their core.  It has nothing to do with ZMs. The only Capri (9 out of
10) that I have drilled that did not have water drain from the bottom of the
hull was Molly. and we all know how meticulous Mark is.  

 

I think Greg is right that it mostly rainwater but that water breaks down
the inner fiberglass, blisters, keel support and rots out the core.  A
gallon of water weighs 8.3 lbs.  If you want to displace 25 extra pounds
around the race course leave the water in.  

 

It's really easy to fill with epoxy and syringe in the spring. 

 

I have heard rumors that John on Phoenix will be giving a symposium on how
to drop the keel and fix the rotten keel supports.   

 

Doug Dickerson

 

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From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org]
On Behalf Of Greg Seifert
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:42 PM
To: 'capri 25'
Subject: Re: [Capri25] Capri's and Zebras.

 

 

I also think that being very careful with ZMs is a great idea.  However the
law doesn't ban transporting water in boats, it bans transporting "water
from infested waters".  I have always been under the belief that the liquids
collected in our bilge are in fact rainwater and spilled beer.  Our cockpit
scuppers do take in lake water from time to time, but I don't think this can
get to the bilge.  Do you guys think you're getting lake water in the bilge?

 

While it may be wise from the perspective of keeping the hull innards dry,
I'd hate to force everybody to drill holes in their boats if it really
doesn't have anything to do with ZMs.

 

Danke,

 

Greg Seifert

Red Shift

 

 

From: capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:capri25-bounces at lists.wyc.org]
On Behalf Of Dan McNamara
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Odell Tuttle; capri 25
Subject: Re: [Capri25] Capri's and Zebras.

 

There are 2 blind sumps in all Capri's.  Consensus drilled 2 holes, one on
each side of the keel with a hole saw.  Under the cabin sole there is an air
gap, a layer of plywood and another air gap.  You need to drill through to
the second air gap.  All are welcome to look a Consensus.  Smitten also has
these holes.  

 

Dan

 

 

On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Odell Tuttle wrote:

 

Andy,

 

Thanks.  That's a good idea.

 

Dan, can you get some photos?  I bet Catapult will let you look at theirs.
I have one too, but it's ugly.

 

Thanks,

OT

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On Sep 17, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Andy Spence-Parsons
<andy.spence-parsons at comcast.net> wrote:

OT - this is a big deal. I know Dallas and the WYC board want to be seen to
be out-in-front of this issue.  Maybe you can raise it quickly with the
technical committee, get some photos of the modification he recommends, and
then get it up online.  Haul-out is fast approaching.

Let me know.
 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: dallas at dallasjohnson.net
To: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:19:40 PM
Subject: [Capri25] Capri's and Zebras.

Capri owners.

 

I met with the DNR this morning regarding the imminent Zebra invasion and
one thing we've learned about Zebra's is that it's critical for all boaters
to ensure their boats do not have standing water in the boat when leaving
the lake.This allows the boat to dry completely and kill zebras. Yes, I know
your boat will freeze over in the winter to kill zebras, but the law is to
not transport any water in boats on the road. 

 

Capri's are unique to in that water can be trapped in the bilge under the
floor pan. There is no accessible access from which to pump out water from a
Capri bilge. 

 

My Capri had a $10 access port under the wooden floorboard (which we had
removed for racing). Honestly, any self respecting racer should have an
access port to pump/mop water out of the bilge so the boat is not heavy, the
keel brace doesn't rot, and now to eliminate standing water where Zebras
might be transported. 

 

My recommendation is that the fleet consider how to best implement access
ports in your bilges, and then make it a rule in the fleet rules to require
installation.  Zebras might seem like a little deal now, but this will
change significantly in just a few years.

 

Thanks, 

dallas


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