[J22-Fleet 1] Discussion Thread - Z Course

[George Hansen]

J22 Fleet # 1,
Hello.  There seems to be a fair amount of discussion regarding last
Thursday's race, and the 'Z' course designation @ WYC.   So I would like to
try something new here ?  And get a discussion thread going about the 'Z'
course.  Lets focus on  situations you have experienced, problems you have
seen, and how could we improve the course/racing ?

The good news (not really) for me is that I was not racing last Thursday, so
at least I can  help moderate.  Above all, lets keep the attitude of this
thread positive and hopefully it will help our fleet.  I have included
previous content as a start.  Please keep comments to the point.  NO
Detailed SIGNATURES (it will keep the thread shorter)  

And as a reply to Mike's idea below.  I would be happy to gather a group
after this Thursday's race to continue this discussion - and possibly put
together a formal Fleet proposal.  Thus this thread also.    
George 
J22#820

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Bowers [mailto:msbowers_55431 at yahoo.com] 
George,

Can we talk after the race Thursday about putting together a formal
(unified) proposal from the J22 fleet to the RC regarding course layout and
mark type.  I think the RC is really trying to give our fleet more racing
room, as we are usually the only ones on the ZR side, but on 3 occations so
far this season it has resulted in bigger problems than it solved.

Mike

--- Jon Noller <dijon at mchsi.com> wrote:

> Agreed, Mike.  Change the color from white to bright yellow and make 
> them tall cylinders (7 footers, yeah baby!).  They NEED to be 
> distinctly different.
> 
> Example:  http://www.apsltd.com/Tree/d3000/e2089.asp


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Bowers" <msbowers_55431 at yahoo.com>
> 
> >I don't think this will solve the #1 problem with the Z course which
> is
> > that the course rarely resembles the diagramed course.  Windshifts 
> > after the start have resulted in akward placement of the down wind 
> > marks, making it difficult to figure out which way to head.
> >
> > If the Z course is to succeed, I propose adding a large Round
> White(?)
> > mark to designate the downwind right course and keep the large
> Round
> > Red for the left mark.  Reusing the orange tetras leads to too much 
> > confusion given that they are the starting marks.
> >
> > Also, every effort should be made to keep the courses seperate and 
> > distinct.  Placing the left course downwind mark <100yds from the 
> > starting line is NOT enough seperation of the courses.  If the race
> has
> > to be set up along the long axis of the lake such that the left and 
> > right courses can't be placed far enough apart, then we simply 
> > shouldn't use it.
> >
> > Mike
> >

Hi George,

Has there been any official discussion regarding clearing up the confusion
regarding Thursday night courses as far as:

--when and where marks are laid,
--the types/shapes/colors of the marks, and --signals (or lack thereof) from
the the RC boat for what appear to be course changes

Thanks George.

John
> >
> > --- George Hansen <george at pcspeed.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Attached is an update from our distinguished WYC race chairman, 
> >> concerning the new z course which was added this year. WYC has 
> >> expanded the z courses to include the following - see attached as 
> >> well.  Thank you -
> George
> >>
> >> George Hansen
> >> J22 Fleet # 1 Captain/WYC BOD
> >> George at pcspeed.com
> >> 612-940-2702 cell
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> NEW Z courses
> >>
> >> Change Notice # 1
> >> Change in WYC Sailing Instructions
> >>
> >> Add 2 new Z courses.
> >>
> >> ZRW 2-1/2  (5 leg windward/leeward on right course (only) with 
> >> finishes at RW Start - RW - RL - RW - RL - Finish at RW
> >>
> >>
> >> ZRW 3-1/2  (7 leg windward/leeward on right course (only) with 
> >> finishes at RW Start - RW - RL - RW - RL - RW - RL - Finish at RW
> >>
> >>
> 
> 


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