[Sonar] Water in Rudder question

Mon Nov 7 08:23:33 CST 2005

I don't think there is any foam in the old rudders.   They're not wide 
enough for it to be structurally viable.  I could be wrong of course. I've 
drilled 6 3 foot long holes lengthwise down my rudder and have only gotten 
powdered resin dispersement that smells like polyester resin that was 
popular at that time.   The drill bit had equal resistance all the way 
down to the bottom.  No water,  absolutely dry.

>From seeing broken C&C 24 - 30 rudders,   I didn't see any foam.   Didn't 
start seeing foam until lengths of 35'  and above.     Of course,   the 
newer rudders may be altogether different.   I'm talking about the circa 
1980 rudders.

However,   I can see that the rudder tube could be a place where water 
would collect.   My rudder was filled all the way to the top with 
polyester resin and it was dry when drilled with a 3 foot hole down the 
center.     I suspect that some rudders would be hollow and would collect 
water.

I'll fill these holes with a blow in waterproof foam and cap them with 
epoxy next spring.     The top of the rudder is also uneven and rough 
which I'll fair smooth.   I suspect that  many rudders need this fairing.

In any event,   I've got my rudder off and sitting upside down in front of 
the fireplace for all winter.   From what I've done to it already,   I'm 
pretty sure it is positively bouyant at this time.

Of course,  Stash would also know about these methods and would be able to 
do them also.

Thomas Brown
"Maximizing Business by Minimizing Surprises"

"Ernest Brody" <epbrody at earthlink.net> 
Sent by: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org
11/06/2005 09:11 PM

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RE: [Sonar] Water in Rudder question

I think he drilled a hole and drained it over the winter.  Then he sealed
the hole and sealed around the post.  I don't think I have any other 
cracks
but I know that it is a two piece shell construction.  I think that yours
has foam inside.  I don't know what to do if that foam is soaked.

epb

-----Original Message-----
From: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org]On
Behalf Of Mark Kochendorfer
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:07 PM
Cc: sonar at lists.wyc.org
Subject: Re: [Sonar] Water in Rudder question

If I ever take my boat to have work done, I would certainly take it to
Stosh.  However, doing the simpler repairs myself is part of the
entertainment value of boat ownership for me.  Lucky for me there are
lots of things to be fixed.

Did he seal the outside surfaces, or is there a plug of some sort down
at the bottom of the tube?

Thanks for the information.

Mark

Ernest Brody wrote:

>Stosh did mine very nicely.  It's been water free for 2 years since he 
did
>it.  I believe that we should be going to Stosh for all our work, but
that's
>just an opinion.  We need to keep him in business.
>
>I store my rudder indoors all winter.
>
>epb
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org [mailto:sonar-bounces at lists.wyc.org]On
>Behalf Of J.R. (home)
>Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:08 PM
>To: markoch at gmail.com; sonar at lists.wyc.org
>Subject: Re: [Sonar] Water in Rudder question
>
>
>If someone figures out how to keep the water out of the old rudders 
PLEASE
>let me know.  I think we have tried everything short of getting a new
>rudder.
>:)
>
>J.R.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "markkoch" <markoch at gmail.com>
>To: <sonar at lists.wyc.org>
>Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:35 PM
>Subject: [Sonar] Water in Rudder question
>
>
>
>
>>I noticed that my rudder has a couple of quarts of water come out of it
>>when I take it off in the fall and turn it upside down.  Is this
>>inevitable?  Can it be prevented by sealing the outside of the rudder or
by
>>sealing the tube at the bottom?
>>
>>Mark
>>Liberty
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