[J22-Fleet 1] [External] CO Stickers

[Michael Bowers]

 Why would you be running an outboard motor inside the cabin?
I think the stickers should go on the finger pier to warn anyone entering the lake area that there is a motor within that space that produces CO gas.
I further suggest that Lithium Ion batteries are extreme fire hazards ( The Grand Tour: Hammonds burning wreck of the Rimac) and Holly should have a nomex suit and fire extinguishers.

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The Grand Tour: Hammonds burning wreck of the Rimac

After Richard Hammond drove his Rimac Concept One from a cliff in the Hemberg Hillclimb, the car went on fire. L...
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FYI, Uta can translate the video, but suffice to say that battery had so much juice that it burned for days.
Mike
    On Wednesday, April 24, 2019, 12:11:18 PM CDT, Dallas Johnson via J22 <j22 at lists.wyc.org> wrote:  
 
 Sophia's Law is a poster child of poorly written legislation that only has a loose correlation with safe boating practices. 
My understanding is that J22's are not required to have a detector because of what Will said. However we are required to have large orange decals at the helm, the boarding area of the cockpit, and the cabin because we have an "enclosed space". 

I have unnecessary registration decals on my bow, but I have zero intention of placing two large orange idiot stickers in my cockpit, and one inside the cabin, of my boat. Sorry. Not going to do it. 
dj 
Here's a graphical flowchart:https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/co-poster-boat.pdf

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Subject: Re: [J22-Fleet 1] [External] CO Stickers
From: Will Foster via J22 <j22 at lists.wyc.org>
Date: Wed, April 24, 2019 10:50 am
To: "j22 at lists.wyc.org" <j22 at lists.wyc.org>

 When looking at the DNR definition I don't think the J22 has a designated 'sleeping' compartment and we don't have ALL OF THE FOLLOWING
>From DNR SiteMotorboats, regardless of fuel type, must have a functioning marine CO detector if they have an enclosed accommodation compartment, which is defined as a motorboat with all of the following:
1) Designated sleeping accommodations2) A galley area with a sink3) A head (toilet) compartment

The J22 DOES fall under this description, which does NOT require a CO2 sensor
Enclosed occupancy compartment is defined as: One contiguous space surrounded by boat structure that may be occupied by a person
If your boat just has an occupancy compartment you are not required by law to have a CO detector in the space, however, it is highly recommended for the safety of all passengers that a detector be placed in any enclosed compartment.

https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/boatwater/sophias-law.html

    On Wednesday, April 24, 2019, 8:44:30 AM CDT, Smith, Craig A (AME MN14) via J22 <j22 at lists.wyc.org> wrote:  
 
   Arguable whether a J/22, with no cabin doors for head, stateroom, or galley, requires a CO monitor.  The DNR was supposed to send stickers with registration package, but they never did.  Question: where does the “helm” sticker go?  The application diagram shows a center console.  Lady at the DNR told me to wrap it around the tiller.  I told her that was ridiculous and decided it was the ENGINE’S  throttle/tiller, so I put a sticker directly on the engine.      In Annapolis, I found my anchor rode too short, so I bought 100’ at West marine – still too short until the measurer told me “you can stretch it dude.”  Funny regatta story from Yappa: he was told his paddle was too short.  So he duct-taped a plastic glass on the end and they said “fine now.”    Appreciate the tip on letting out max tow line:  in addition to less stretch/shock absorbing, I’ve seen crew tie it off so short I’m afraid I’ll hit boat ahead if they slow suddenly.         From: J22 [mailto:j22-bounces at lists.wyc.org] On Behalf Of Russell Swansen via J22
 Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 5:20 PM
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 Subject: [External] [J22-Fleet 1] CO Stickers      J22 sailors,    Perhaps I am the only one, but until I received Lars’s message today I was unware of the MN DNR’s CO sticker requirement if you have a motor on your boat.  At the third place I went today I managed to secure the required stickers.  A set of 3 is required.  I have 4 extra sets if anyone wants a set.      Russ  _______________________________________________
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