[Sonar] FW: Capri25 Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

Chuck Bangasser chuck at besttechnologyinc.com
Fri Jun 15 13:31:04 CDT 2012 

Interesting email that I received...very sorry to hear of bad blood with
the a fellow WYC Fleet.  Have we not treated them fairly?  If we have done
them wrong we should look at correcting it I would think.  They are a fun,
hard working fleet in my opinion.

Chuck
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Today's Topics:

   1.  the only reason the rest of the club puts up with the
      Capri's (capri Sailor)
   2. Re:  the only reason the rest of the club puts up with the
      Capri's (dallas at dallasjohnson.net)
   3.  Response to Dallas (Bethany)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:17:04 -0500
From: capri Sailor <capri25wyc at gmail.com>
To: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
Subject: [Capri25] the only reason the rest of the club puts up with
	the	Capri's
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Tonight after the race that should have been, it came to my attention that
the Start of the North Regatta is a Sonar event where the only value the
Capri's bring is the boats that pay the entry fee and provide the funds
for the Sonars to run it the way they want.  This is also the feeling of
the rest of the club, we are a fleet that pays our dues and chops up the
race course, the real racers tolerate us.

I heard that members of the Sonar fleet were upset about the call to
action (that one of our fleet members put out) to get others involved in
the Star of the North Regatta.  Evidently it is not "our" place to
participate in the planning and preparation of our own regatta. As I
recall it was our event before we invited other, we had great events
before merging and last year without the Sonars.  Anyone who heard about
this and did not stand up for our fleet member shame on you.

We have had great joint events in the past and I hope we can in years to
come.  But the Capri's have to be involved in the planning and the work or
it will no longer be our event.  If we let the dedicated members of the
Sonar fleet do all the heavy lifting, what can we expect?

This is an anonymous email because those who know me already know who
wrote this, you are the only opinions I care about and would expect
nothing less.

The goal of the this email is to make the fleet aware of the consequences
of our apathy and shed light on a wrong that was done to a person.  If we
want to be a great feet, act like it.

To be a great fleet we need to:

   1. Be involved in the running of the club and events
   2. Fight for our right to be on the race course
   3. Stand up for members that a wrong is done to.


If all we do is pay our dues and show up, is the rest of the club's
opinion of use far off?
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:36:54 -0700
From: <dallas at dallasjohnson.net>
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Subject: Re: [Capri25] the only reason the rest of the club puts up
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:44:02 -0500
From: Bethany <gracesaddress at gmail.com>
To: "<dallas at dallasjohnson.net>" <dallas at dallasjohnson.net>
Cc: "capri25 at lists.wyc.org" <capri25 at lists.wyc.org>
Subject: [Capri25] Response to Dallas
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Dallas,

Thank you for sticking your neck out for the Capri sailors.  Your words
are healing.

Bethany Buchanan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:36 AM, <dallas at dallasjohnson.net> wrote:

>
> The aging pseudo rock-stars of the mature one design fleets quaff their
beers in terror because they don't know how to recruit new sailors and
boats like the Capri 25 fleet does. Don't let their cynical aged envious
wisdom bring you down.
>
> However, it is my experience that once newer sailors gain the wisdom to
take on more management responsibility at the club, their opinions often
change to reflect those of the grumpy old guard they wish to replace...and
for good reason.
>
> So, YES, volunteer and work to make the world a better place through
stern mounted BBQ grills. We desperately need you. But don't think you're
going to make the world all that different, just better.
>
> Also, anyone who's watched the races from the sidelines knows the most
exciting racing on the lake, of any fleet, period, is the Capri 25 fleet.
By a long shot. You are the envy of the sailing world.
>
> dallas
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Capri25] the only reason the rest of the club puts up with
> the Capri's
> From: capri Sailor <capri25wyc at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, June 14, 2012 11:17 pm
> To: capri25 at lists.wyc.org
>
> Tonight after the race that should have been, it came to my attention
that the Start of the North Regatta is a Sonar event where the only value
the Capri's bring is the boats that pay the entry fee and provide the
funds for the Sonars to run it the way they want.  This is also the
feeling of the rest of the club, we are a fleet that pays our dues and
chops up the race course, the real racers tolerate us.
>
> I heard that members of the Sonar fleet were upset about the call to
action (that one of our fleet members put out) to get others involved in
the Star of the North Regatta.  Evidently it is not "our" place to
participate in the planning and preparation of our own regatta. As I
recall it was our event before we invited other, we had great events
before merging and last year without the Sonars.  Anyone who heard about
this and did not stand up for our fleet member shame on you.
>
> We have had great joint events in the past and I hope we can in years to
come.  But the Capri's have to be involved in the planning and the work or
it will no longer be our event.  If we let the dedicated members of the
Sonar fleet do all the heavy lifting, what can we expect?
>
> This is an anonymous email because those who know me already know who
wrote this, you are the only opinions I care about and would expect
nothing less.
>
> The goal of the this email is to make the fleet aware of the
consequences of our apathy and shed light on a wrong that was done to a
person.  If we want to be a great feet, act like it.
>
> To be a great fleet we need to:
> Be involved in the running of the club and events Fight for our right
> to be on the race course Stand up for members that a wrong is done to.
>
> If all we do is pay our dues and show up, is the rest of the club's
opinion of use far off?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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